Power ratio over one

[gyulasun]

Hi David,

Would like to be a bit nosy and inquire about your setup how it has been going since then?

rgds,  Gyula

[wattsup]

@gyulasun

I think @handyguy1 has not been around for a while. It's too bad because his design does have merit and I hope to try it in the near future when I can muster up some more time from the TPU videos. Hope he is doing OK.

[handyguy1]

Hay group:

Sorry about the delay.

A while back Stefan was asking about the double wound output coils, and Lenz law. Both subjects were something I needed to tinker with and come up with some sort of answer. I decided to spin a single wire coil, and address Lenz law and Eddy currents by using 44AWG wire. Currently, the circuit is superconducting when the LEDs voltage requirements matched the voltage of the output coil.

My question was ?would a single wire coil of 44 AWG magnet wire show any signs of Lenz law or Eddy currents, or hysteresis?. If bad forces are there the 44 AWG wire will clearly demonstrate it.

I ordered 3 lbs of 44 AWG wire and 200 LEDS (3.2@25mA). After winding somewhere around a pound of the 44 AWG wire, the wire broke and so did my arm from hand winding the coil. The results are nothing less than spectacular! The LEDs are arranged in series with 120 LED?s per half cycle. I fired the coil up and all the LEDs light quite nicely. There is a small amount of resistance; however, adding a 100K ohm resistor in series eliminates the resistance, the LEDs still light, and the circuit goes superconducting. I need to buy more LEDs to replace the resistor.

Early on, experimenting with different gauge wire, I spun a coil with 21-gauge wire. It is about two and a half pounds. According to my MM and data recorder, the 21-gauge coil put out 4-5 volts and 35 mA?s. That came out to around 20 percent efficient, so I concentrated on the 29-gauge wire to concentrate on 300% efficiency from one coil. During the rest periods from spinning the 44-gauge coil, I used a solder-less breadboard to parallel the LEDs to load check the amperage output of the 21-gauge coil. I had 91 LEDs 3.2v@25mA in parallel and they all lite up. The LEDs show no signs of lack of amperage. I need to buy more LEDs.

Both of these coils operate simultaneously along with the secondary device (29 -gauge) operating 36.5 volts of LEDs, all powered by one 1.2 volt, 550mAh AA cell.

I am getting ready to show this device at one of the local TV stations. What I would like comments on is; how many LEDs do I need to light up, to fall into the extraordinary proof category, or, should I increase the size of the coils?
21 gauge coil powers 91+ LEDs in parallel
29 gauge powers 15 colored LEDs (36.5 volts)
44 gauge powers 120+ LEDs in series
Power source: one- 1.2 volt ? 550mAh AA cell.

David Middleton

[gyulasun]

Hi David,

Thank you for all the infos.  I am puzzled a little by your results and would really like to help but I cannot define what falls into an extraordinary proof category in your case.
This is because as you often write you ' light up'  the LEDs and this means intermittent or fluctuating light output and normally such ways of operation makes correct evaluation of output power difficult.
LEDs have their known forward voltage drop of around 3.1V each, multiplied by their number in series, this constitutes a threshold voltage in the load under which there is no real load at the output and above which there is a nonlinearly increasing load at the output.
Your data logger can come here to rescue of course but your waveforms data presented on trace 3 for the output current is very very noisy due to the extremely low voltage drop on your 0.05 Ohm shunt (and due to the series 100kOhm resistor you used then in January?).

So I think output power evaluation could be run with your setup of 91 LEDS in parallel because there cannot flow microampers but at least several milliampers and please try using at least a 1 Ohm shunt resistor instead of the 0.05 Ohm.
This way the current waveform should show up far above the noise level like in trace 2 here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3865.0;attach=16744

(It does not turn out clearly if you used any other LEDs in series with your 91 paralled LEDs and I assumed above there are the 91 LEDs in parallel that load directly your output coil.  So in this scenario it would be good to see all the 4 logger traces, focusing on a relatively noiseless trace 3.  And when you write: I had 91 LEDs 3.2v@25mA in parallel and they all lite up. The LEDs show no signs of lack of amperage.   I cannot know whether you meant data sheet specifications for the white LEDs or you meant measured data so your output was loaded by a current of 25mA times 91 @ 3.2V output voltage? )

Of course you can show the logger output of any of the setups you listed:

21 gauge coil powers 91+ LEDs in parallel
29 gauge powers 15 colored LEDs (36.5 volts)
44 gauge powers 120+ LEDs in series

the point is to be able to clearly see trace 3 output current waveforms much like the input current in trace 2.

You do not need to use a precision 1 Ohm resistor, for once you have a digital multimeter, you can always assemble such 1 Ohm value from several other "neighboring" values by connecting them in parallel or series as your junk box dictates.

rgds,  Gyula

[hartiberlin]

Hi David,
I agree to Dyla,
that we need to see new datalogger scope shots.
Also was it a typo that you said you put the +91 diodes in parallel
and you meant in series ?

Putting them in series makes more sense as we have learned throughout this thread
to keep the amps down and thus negative Lenz law effects to drag down the magnet rotor...

Regards, Stefan.