Power ratio over one

[handyguy1]

Hay Gary:
Well done, You are spot on!  Here are the private e-mails that have been exchanged between us.
>Hay Mr. Krieg:
>
>Are you ready to test my apparatus yet?
depends, if you  can get it near me in eastern pa, sure.  otherwise, I would need a local press person to confirm you would pass my terms at
www.phact.org/e/freetest.html
- then I would be willing to fly out on my nickel, tell me more about what you offer
Dear Mr. Krieg:
I am quite shocked at getting a response from you.  Evidently, I failed to express my attitude adequately on your test protocol. Your requirement ?I would need a local press person to confirm you would pass my terms? is also not realistic. There is no way that a ?press person? would understand anything about the device.
Straight out, I am not interested in your prize. I am interested in getting my apparatus tested. Therefore, if you are willing to conduct a test, forgoing your test protocols, I am willing to forgo the prize.
Simply put electricity in - electricity out.  My exact claim: I have invented an apparatus that clearly shows a power ratio over one, thus violating the first law of thermodynamics.
By the end of this week, I should have the material list, assembly instructions, and operating procedures finished. I propose when I am finished, I send the material to you, for your examination. This way we should have a meeting of the minds before any testing.
In the mean time, I have no objections sending you a screen capture of the waveforms and a moment-by-moment reading of the values, in excel format, generated by a data recorder.
I look forward to our meeting.
Sincerely;
David Middleton
handyguy1@verizon.net
David,

   my thoughts that come to mind about mere OU:
anyone smart enough or creative enough to be the first after thousands of losers to get real OU should have no problem looping enough back to supply all needed input power.  The reason this is important is that there have been so many cases of power power measurement done of input and output power.   Some engineers have made mistakes that have gotten people all excited about devices actually under unity.  How much do you think it would take you to convert your device to run off excess output power after some start up procedure?

     and aside from that, what input powers and output powers have you confirmed so far?
eric
SIR:
?mere OU:? Now that?s funny!!! The technical term is power ratio. My creativity or intelligence is not preventing me from completing the ?loop?, quite the contrary.  I can?t speak to your allegation of ?thousands of losers?. Just how many of those ?losers? inventions have you tested? Did you do any scientific research, or are you parroting what someone else said? Can you recite just one testers means and conclusions, and how does that relate to the thousands of others? I certainly hope your answer isn?t ?because there not on the market?.
I am confused here. You make reference to ?engineers..mistakes?, then state ?actually under unity?. How was it determined that the devices are in fact ?under unity?? Most certainly, the tests were conducted with testing equipment.  That makes me wonder if the testers were accurate, after all if they were wrong saying yea, nothing saying they were not wrong saying nay.
I?m just trying to get a handle on where you are coming from. Are you telling me that you are incompetent to take actual voltage measurements? I just plain don?t understand the problem you are having.
Aside from that.
The power ratio from one of the three generators is over 300%. That doesn?t include the power from the other two generators. When I say ?clearly a power ratio over one? that?s exactly what I mean.
Please sir, if you are not qualified to do such testing, just say so, and I?ll waste your time no longer.
I would appreciate a truthful answer.
Sincerely,
David Middleton
handyguy1@verizon.net
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Mr. Krieg has lost all creditability as far as I am concerned.

[wattsup]

You can have OU without looping. Also, you can have OU and never be able to loop.

Your output at .1 amps - 60 volts would suggest 6 watts output. But how did you measure this?

Can someone please post on this thread the pics on the other forum(s) as well as the links to the videos so we don't have to wade through so many sites, etc. Just a waste of time.

[gyulasun]

You can have OU without looping. Also, you can have OU and never be able to loop.

Your output at .1 amps - 60 volts would suggest 6 watts output. But how did you measure this?

Can someone please post on this thread the pics on the other forum(s) as well as the links to the videos so we don't have to wade through so many sites, etc. Just a waste of time.

Hi Wattsup,

Here are two links to the videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HHQzWyLTBI and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzUcmYiHF5E
Regarding the pictures, I think it is up to Dave' wish to upload them here.

Gyula

[one]

Hi Wattsup,

Here are two links to the videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HHQzWyLTBI and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzUcmYiHF5E
Regarding the pictures, I think it is up to Dave' wish to upload them here.

Gyula

Thanks for the links  Gyula


Dave 

All I know about  your  idea is what I have seen on this thread.

The  Utube  vidieos   gave me an idea  of what you are trying to do  but  also left alot of questions


The  longer of the  2 videos  showed 2 machines running .   I could  only see  one  thing that looked like a battery.

Was the battery powering  both machines   or was one driving the other.

How long  will it  run on that battery ?

I assume that the flashing lights are banks of  LEDs

I am  much better with mechanical  stuff than I am with electrical  stuff.
I can see that  the  reciprocation  of  your machine is  using  quite a bit  of energy .
If it could be converted into  smooth  circular motion   you could probably  at least double the  output.

I  don't know if I can find it .    but I saw a  site that showed  a guy  with a machine  that  had  huge coils  and  circular  motion.
I will  try to find  that link later today .   I am pretty sure it was a U tube video .   


gary.
it wasn't turning  real fast  but it was running.

[wattsup]

Gyulasun, thanks for putting up the video links. At least now we know what this thread is about.

As for the design, I think it is very very smart indeed.

From what I can see, the rotors are not turning, they are just rocking back and forth so they do not create peak BEMF. Pretty smart.

At the end of the 3 rocker unit, there is a perpendicular shaft that knocks on the floor, one side then the other, etc. Under it is another plane that is probably spring loaded to provide some free return to the rotors. There are also what seems to be some micro contacts at the end of the shaft used to cut and/or switch polarities on the coils.

There are green coils and brown coils. Maybe one is the drive coil and the other is a generator coil. The coils seems rather big with lots of winding. I don't know if all that winding is warranted or not as it would seem such rocker motion could be done with less.

Now if all of this is running with that small battery, there is definitely something here worth looking into. Just the basic design could have some interesting offshoots so we will have to wait and see if more info will be made available.