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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Omnibus

What should happen is to ask @alsetalokin to replace the parts from unknown sources with parts (magnets, bearings, screws etc.) of known origin and tell us if he still reproduces the effect seen in his first video. If he were to publish this in a peer-reviewed journal he would be asked to do that by the reviewers. Otherwise it's just a frivolous playing a cat and mouse game with those genuinely interested in this experiment.

That's why I'm saying again, given these unfortunate circumstances (the "author" not willing to abide by the scientific standards) the credit for constructing this device should go solely to the person or persons who would really  find out the conditions for independent parties to easily reproduce this effect.

Bruce_TPU

@ Omni
Perhaps.  Perhaps not.  If I know a particular Mfg. Bearing works, why would I want another?  I would have started with those, if I had known the name.  And it is a Mfg. of bearings.  I will find and order some tomorrow. 

I'll post the info for those that want it.

@ Ken
Is the SHCS screws that you have magnetic or non magnetic?  Some stainless is, and some is not.

Please verify and let me know.  Thanks!

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

blue_energy

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 06, 2008, 09:32:01 PM
Quote from: AndreaGanora on February 06, 2008, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: JFK on February 06, 2008, 09:18:45 AM
@AndreaGanora, that is an intrigueing and complex theory, however a few pages back, I think we determined that Al's balls are ceramic.  ;D

< pictures a bearing within a bearing with ceramic races and magnetized balls running itself > [ someone wanna do the math on that one ? ]  :D
@JFK
Apart from jokes and from my "Magnetized Bearing?s magnetic vortex and delayed tailing effect"   wild teory  :), I've based my two actual replication's rigs  mainly on the infos collected in a pdf file downloadable from OSPMMdotORG where are included lods of infos posted mainly by Al plus some others on various wipmag treads over at steorn and elsewhere.

There you can read Al's stator's bearings description  :
Stator bearings -
I had 8, they are Stewart-Warner, and I had to buy 5 more from another source, they are
unmarked.
Bearing is generic ball bearing, ferromagnetic, 0.500 x 0.1875 x 0.125
(Editor's note: If you look at the photos it is obvious the bearing is
0.500OD x 0.125ID x 0.1875H )
Mass of stator magnet assembly, including holder, magnet, and bearing:
10 grams. Variation between the 13 units is below the resolution of my (home) scale.
 
 
@ All
here is the updated Pdf file,  it can be a great  help to go trough the various setup changes Al's operated  on his rig :

http://www.ospmm.org/whipmag/pdf/OC_motor_012708.pdf


Cheers and good luck everybody ;)

Hello Andrea,

That bearing information is VERY useful.  I am meeting with the bearing guy tomorrow.  I will try to track those down.

EDIT:
I wish we had the height from the top of the base to the top of the rotor.

Cheers,

Bruce

Also, there is info. there on what is included in the 258 grams rotor weight ("including magnets and shaft adapter, but not including shaft or bearings"); what the composition of the rotor spindle and bearings are; etc.  All the stuff Omni was looking for, I believe.  Invaluable document!

Bruce_TPU

Hello all,

I have just labeled this picture.  This is what I need to now work on, while I await my rotor.  It should be here this week.  It has already been shipped.

When it arrives, I will weigh everything and post the weights.

G'night,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

vipond50

@ Bruce, Omni and Others

Was comparing my stator referencing Rotor magnets orientation to the attached Pic and could not come up with the same. Was wondering if u could look at your Orientations and supply some feedback.
Q.- Did Al accurately mark the N & S of his Stator Magnetics ?

Thanks
Bill]