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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Omnibus

#2270
February 07, 2008, 12:58:44 AM
@vipond50,

Will do that as soon as my rotor arrives today and will let you know.

vipond50

#2271
February 07, 2008, 01:12:34 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on February 07, 2008, 12:58:44 AM
@vipond50,

Will do that as soon as my rotor arrives today and will let you know.
Thanks Omni
i can only get one to line up, The other two are out 20 or so degrees. In the mean time i will try to angular measurements off my setup as well as Mea's off the pic.

Regards
Bill

AndreaGanora

#2272
February 07, 2008, 07:16:15 AM
 
Quote from: vipond50 on February 07, 2008, 12:38:16 AM
@ Bruce, Omni and Others

Was comparing my stator referencing Rotor magnets orientation to the attached Pic and could not come up with the same. Was wondering if u could look at your Orientations and supply some feedback.
Q.- Did Al accurately mark the N & S of his Stator Magnetics ?

Thanks
Bill]

@vipond50
Good you pointed this out , I didn't notice :-\
I think i can recall someone usking Al to chek if he had marked his mags correctly , and Al unswering that they could have been all marked wrongly colorwhise ( that meaning that black could mean either noth or south ) but that he doublechecked all of them and all stator's and rotor's mags showed to be  marked same colour on same poles and therefore to be consistent  .
Here is a pic of my rig , I've tried to let the rotor sit in the same position as Al's and as you can see it doesn't really match by spacing and angoular alignment of rotor's/stator's mags.
Note : All magnets on my rig are standard colour marked RED=NORTH and WHITE = SOUTH  - my rotor is ( EDITED shaved it tonight on the Lathefrom 20 down to 18 mm )thick HDPE - weight 8edited now weight 260 grams  included bearings so different design but allmost spot on about the weight )- 144mm dia. -  magnet housing groove 13mm deep by 7mm whide - distance from rotor's outher edge to magnet's housing groove inner edge 13mm - 1/2" dia by 1/4" deep centerholes on both sides of rotor , centerholes housing 2 SKF 624-2z bearings normal ferromagnetic same as the ones I use for the stators- dumpers made of anticorodal alluminum same dimensions as stator's mags BUT NOTE that the rotor's mags are K&J's D48 that are N42 grade and not N35 as appearently the ones used in Al's working rig , but I don't know if the different alignment could depend on this factor , i rather suppose that the rotor's N42 mags would anyway balance themselves respect to the stator's ones in the same way as the N35 would but not shure about that  ::).

Bruce_TPU

#2273
February 07, 2008, 08:00:01 AM
Hello Andrea,

A nice looking rig.  What materials are your dampers?  If it is not the 6061 T-6 I suggest you change to that.  Also use the nylon for the center screws of the dampers.  Or golf Tees.  Other screws will add to the dampening effect. 

I am working on proper screws today, myself.

Good Job!

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Omnibus

#2274
February 07, 2008, 08:09:08 AM
@vipond50 and @AndreaGanora,

@WhiteLite brought up the question for magnets being off in the strobe video and @alsetalokin answered it here: http://fizzx.com/viewtopic.php?p=2188#2188. Obviously, there must be a similar problem in the device shown in the picture as well.
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