Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[Grimer]

@ Omnibus

Thanks for your interesting and considered reply.

I think we have explored our individual viewpoints of the matter as far as is sensible at the present. To try to take it further would be a bridge too far unless and until some experimental confirmation of the Alsetalokin Effect is forthcoming. Also, it is best to leave concepts as fluid as possible so that one does not firm them up down some blind alley from which one has to retreat, always an intellectually painful business.

We cannot yet be certain the Effect is genuine but I take the view that it is more sensible to assume it is and eventually find out we were mistaken than to assume that it isn't and loose a unique opportunity.

If power is being developed then the only rational explanation in my book is the enclosing of a area of the BH, BB, or HH  diagram in by a counter-wise loop to the refrigeration loop. In short, the magneto-dynamic analog of the thermo-dynamic power cycle with the motion of the magnosphere being the source just as the motion of the local thermosphere is the source in the case of the archetypal Carnot cycle.

[Omnibus]

@Grimer,

That's the best, indeed, to postpone further discussion on the nature of this phenomenon until we establish for sure that it's a real phenomenon. When the time comes I' be curious to learn more about your approach. Until then, I guess, purely empirical efforts will be the priority.

[sm0ky2]

Once again, my lack of artistic talent inhibits my ability to convey the message, but what the heck, 
The Green arrows are the direction of rotation, The red arrows are the direction of repulsive force.

the grey area with black lines is supposed to represent the Flux Compression.
when the rotor/stator are lined up just before the north poles pass, the lines of flux are pushed in the direction of the rotor, bending them outwards, but the force at this moment, is a vector in the ouward direction - basically on the stator shaft, away from the rotor - not on the stator itself,which would prevent it from spinning. this is important

now, as the poles come together, the flux is already compressed (like a spring) and the force in in the direction of rotation, pushing both rotor and stator away from each other.

As i understand, making this happen was a pure accident,..  replicating it continiously has proven to be quit a task.  one that i have failed at myself.

Sm0ky2,

Below are properly sequenced stroboscopic pics of Al's device at 4620 RPM operating in AWG (co-rotation).  Do these agree with your drawing?

Cheers 

Yada..
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my "drawing" is not to scale, but essentially YES, those photos are correct. and also demonstrate what i was saying about the south poles not providing the driving force. the south poles reallign the stator for the next set of "N" magnets to push them along.

-- I notice something else from those photos which i wish i had caught before. they are not "synchronized".  And this may be why my devices did not display the same properties.


take a look at the lower photos, stator is in the same position, rotor is not.

so it only "pushes" at certain times, not 4 times per rotation, as i previously thought - and had attempted to construct my device to do.

Can we get any more of those photostrobic pics? it would be great to have the full sequence.

@ OMNI - there is a force required to allight the magnets in this way, which is off-set by the speed moving rotor - because of the vector-force of the flux compression, the negative force is not against the direction of rotation it is outwards. until the compressed flux reaches its limit and is contracted back into "shape" - at that point both forces are in the direction of rotation

[ken_nyus]

Sm0ky2,

Below are properly sequenced stroboscopic pics of Al's device at 4620 RPM operating in AWG (co-rotation).  Do these agree with your drawing?

Cheers 

Yada..
.

Don't forget, I think Al stated over on fizzx that the stator in these photos was marked wrong, about 5 degrees off and that he thought it would align properly.

[Omnibus]

@smOky2:

@ OMNI - there is a force required to allight the magnets in this way, which is off-set by the speed moving rotor - because of the vector-force of the flux compression, the negative force is not against the direction of rotation it is outwards. until the compressed flux reaches its limit and is contracted back into "shape" - at that point both forces are in the direction of rotation

This is interesting but should be explained more thoroughly.