Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[sm0ky2]

@smOky2:

@ OMNI - there is a force required to allight the magnets in this way, which is off-set by the speed moving rotor - because of the vector-force of the flux compression, the negative force is not against the direction of rotation it is outwards. until the compressed flux reaches its limit and is contracted back into "shape" - at that point both forces are in the direction of rotation

This is interesting but should be explained more thoroughly.

i can only explain this with respect to my "replication", as i am now quite certain that AL's motor is not synchronized in the same manner that mine are.

that being said - i will describe the reaction between rotor and stator when they ARE synchronized.
during the non-synchronized parts of the cycle, i am not sure how the stator/rotor are reacting,
and if the photographs are "off by 10-degrees" as was previously stated, then this is even more confusing - if anyone has accurate information about stator<->rotor positions during the FULL CYCLE of AL's device, it would be  greatly appreciated ...

I will use the North end of the magnet for this, but (except for a minute difference) the north and south are essentially the same.

as the North monopole turns towards the stator , just where the bulge in the flux lines come to the outer edge of the stator - the opposing magnets try to push away from each other.  - there is a "lock point" just outside this region, where if not moving fast enough, the stator will stop, and the rotor will get a pulse of back-torque.  - if the speed of the stator is enough to overcome this, it turns inwards past the lock-point, once this occurs the lines of flux are forced in the direction of the rotor.
the force vector is perpendicular to this, - primarily on the shaft of the stator, trying to push stator and rotor aay from one another. - the shaft resists this and the stator continues to turn, once past the (magnetic) half-way point, the flux hits a critical maximum compression, and pushes back,
by this time the rotor is past the halfway point and the two "N" poles push away from each other in a rotational direction.

What i am starting to realize now, is that in a "synchronized" device, the force at the "lock-point" is essentially equivalent to the push force. The result of this, is the stator gradually looses speed, (from friction) resulting in system decay.

in AL's motor - it appears that the stator and rotor are in different relative position, as they approach each other, at each of the 8 "monopoles". -this is the main difference between my replication, and the original.

[b0rg13]

What i am starting to realize now, is that in a "synchronized" device, the force at the "lock-point" is essentially equivalent to the push force. The result of this, is the stator gradually looses speed, (from friction) resulting in system decay.

in AL's motor - it appears that the stator and rotor are in different relative position, as they approach each other, at each of the 8 "monopoles". -this is the main difference between my replication, and the original.


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so are you hinting that if the stator was retarded or advanced a little (not sure which way, i havent put too much thought into it), the main rotor would speed up ?.

[sm0ky2]

what is observed from the stator-rotor mesh when both poles approach properly, there is a "lock-point" (sticky spot around a circumferance), then a flux compression, followed by a kick in the direction of both rotor and stator, respectively. - which is +/- equal to the repulsion at the lock-point.

what i am suggesting is that, such retardation/detardation might offset the "lock-point", such that there is only a force in the rotational direction, and the force against the shaft (which doesnt hurt us).

This would explain the variation from the 4:1 spin ratio between rotor/stator that would be consistant, were they actually synchronized. - i originally assumed this was an error with the accuracy of the optical RPM device. but maybe i was wrong..


     

[Yadaraf]

sm0ky2,

RE: Stroboscopic pics

I screen-captured the pics from Al's third video, which you can download from CLaNZeR's site:

... Al's Stroboscopic WMV vid:  http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/alsetalokin/AlsetalokinsThirdVideo.wmv

Note that the strobe is set to the stator speed.  Thus, because the rotor is spinning at 4:1, there are some strobing artifacts.

I hope Al marked the stator polarity correctly.   

Cheers   

Yada..
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[sm0ky2]

sm0ky2,

RE: Stroboscopic pics

I screen-captured the pics from Al's third video, which you can download from CLaNZeR's site:

... Al's Stroboscopic WMV vid:  http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/alsetalokin/AlsetalokinsThirdVideo.wmv

Note that the strobe is set to the stator speed.  Thus, because the rotor is spinning at 4:1, there are some strobing artifacts.

I hope Al marked the stator polarity correctly.   

Cheers   

Yada..
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by "strobing artifacts", do you mean that the video does not show the proper allignment?
- and thus these pictures do not reflect the actual occurance?