Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[Craigy]

Hi Sean , will send you those 6 x 12 magnets tomorrow, the spanish post office closes at 2 , so can?t get there til sat. 

yes the stators, they will all gear but of course , at .rpm the best shape is cylindrical. hence the magnets we are waiting for. i am tempted to turn a plastic cylinder and plonk 2 small neos in it., but it gets harder to spin the stators in the wrong direction when we are taking about a 10 mm stator diameter. perhaps if i put a plastic flange on them , thus it would be easier to spin up on the dremil

[sterlinga]

----- Original Message -----
From: Sterling D. Allan
To: Overconfident
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: I didn't ignore you

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After this initial open sourcing phase of showing people exactly how to build one of these things, I would encourage those who are able to work on improvements which they can then patent and take to market.  Doug will likely be one who will do that.  I anticipate that Doug will also help us in the initial phase of characterizing what is going on: testing such things as magnet size, distance, position, etc.
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> Sterling

Hi sterlinga,

Just curious, shouldn't this whole thing be open sourced and fully transparent all the way? None of the replications would be taking place if OC and Al were to keep their ideas and prototypes to themselves.
OC and AL led the way with fairly good transparency and open source spirit.

What would be the scope of patenting any further developments/improvements?

Thanks

ps: maybe a thread is needed to discuss opensourse vs patent? so not to take this too much of topic.

Yes, this should probably be a different thread.

My take on it is that open source is ideal for the core idea.  Open source works fine in the software world from beginning to end because there are no significant capitalization costs. But in the energy marketplace, in order to get capital, one must have a patent; otherwise there is no assurance that someone else won't come along with a similar knock-off and make the capital investment not pan out.

Sterling

[CLaNZeR]

Hi Sean , will send you those 6 x 12 magnets tomorrow, the spanish post office closes at 2 , so can?t get there til sat. 

No problems mate, got enough too play with for now hehe

yes the stators, they will all gear but of course , at .rpm the best shape is cylindrical. hence the magnets we are waiting for. i am tempted to turn a plastic cylinder and plonk 2 small neos in it., but it gets harder to spin the stators in the wrong direction when we are taking about a 10 mm stator diameter. perhaps if i put a plastic flange on them , thus it would be easier to spin up on the dremil

Must admit I have played with those small 6mm Diametrically magnetised magnet and it takes a fair RPM to stop them interacting.

With the Config above, ya be lucky to get 3 revolutions, way too much of a sticky point LOL

When the orginal magnets arrive I think the only way to go for the constant speed is too use the good old Air Compresor to get a steady 400-600 RPM and then start spinning the Stator backwards, then as soon as a reaction is seen, cut the air flow. I have been flicking the small magnets all day and see what AL means by getting a sore finger 

Another gawd knows how many hours wasted again, I HOPE NOT LOL

[CLaNZeR]

Forgot to say, just received this in my Inbox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmQf1Yp-Tig

Hope I am not being stalked 

[MeggerMan]

@All,
I have and idea that the three stators are required because they reduce the cogging effect at slow speed to smooth out the rotation and reduce the drag. This will be down to their different magnetic phase spacing around the rotor.
At first I thought that perhaps you could work this without them, but now I suspect they are required. I am not sure if AL has tried it with just one stator magnet - maybe someone can advise on this.

The large 19mm thickness allows the rotor mass to be sufficient to again smooth out the rotation.
So a thin rotor may produce a watch hand ticking action that prevents the rotor from syncing in the first place.
Therefore I think I will need to get some 20mm HDPE material after all and try to stick very close to the original design.

Regards
Rob