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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Omnibus

#560
January 12, 2008, 09:56:28 AM
@CLaNZeR,

Thanks for the video. I see your rotor being 199g is lighter than @alsetalonkin's 258g. Could you try turning it first by hand? I wonder if these 1000rpm were imparted by hand or not? Recall, when @alsetalonkin turns it by hand the spin is at ~400rpm. As the things are going here I'll be starting these experiments on Monday, hopefully. Have the magnets already, the bearings will probably arrive today bu the parts won't be ready till Monday.

Craigy

#561
January 12, 2008, 10:05:43 AM
I didn?t like al?s reply to sean about the materials, on the steorn forum.. was it me or was he being patronising?
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#562
January 12, 2008, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: CLaNZeR on January 12, 2008, 09:36:59 AM
Started doing some weighing and wind down tests with NO stator magnets.



The little 3mm RC bearings top and bottom give a good 4 minute wind down from 1000RPM with Rotor Magnets.

Find Video below:

http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/1000RPMCLaNZeRSRotor1.wmv

BTW I span it upto 4000 RPM without magnet just now and it started too lift off the table at 2500 RPM, so Blue Tacked the feet down and they are only just staying there at 4000 RPM, so be warned LOL  ;D ;D ;D

Span it up with Air Line as below.


Off to find a bit of timber too screw then base plate too and add the extra weight !

Cheers

Sean.


@ Sean

The rotor has only reached speeds below 2K.  The faster the stator magnets spin, the slower the rotor.  Where Al ran two of the stator magnets anti-gear wise, where they both sped up over 12,000 rpm's, the rotor was 1000 rpm.  So I don't think that you need worry about lift off, just yet!  LOL

Good work!!

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

CLaNZeR

#563
January 12, 2008, 10:15:21 AM
Quote from: Craigy on January 12, 2008, 10:05:43 AM
I didn?t like al?s reply to sean about the materials, on the steorn forum.. was it me or was he being patronising?

Well he never answered the question did he  ;D I said I had ordered some HDPE as he had recommended on another thread with the answer coming back as :

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Nylon is about like congealed asphalt as far as machinability goes. It is usually molded to shape.

The Delrin (or Acetal in the civilized world) is what I used for the early rotors and all the stator bearing/magnet holders, and the 3.5 mm to 1/2 in shaft adapter. It is by far the nicest plastic to machine. It has a sensual quality about it that is somewhat indescribable. Why, when I first met Delrin...but that's another story.
Oh, and the mechanical properties are nice too.
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So maybe I should or ordered some Actel hehehe  ;D
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Rosphere

#564
January 12, 2008, 10:20:42 AM
@btentzer,

Hey, what are you doing over here kicking it with the magnet motor guys?  >:(

Get back and finish your TPU before it gets cold!  :D
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