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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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vipond50

#1630
January 23, 2008, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: georgemay on January 23, 2008, 10:14:56 PM
Not sure if anyone noticed:

ALSETALOKIN

Can you spell it backwards? :D

Nope & Nope
Daaaa  ;D

MeggerMan

#1631
January 24, 2008, 03:15:19 AM
Hi Omni,
Never thought of trying the two different orientations.
I will do the same test and show the  results.
I have N42 1/4"OD x 1/2" rods and N38 6mm OD x 2mm discs (6 of these to make up the 1/2" - almost).
N38 spacing was about 28mm but I will do all the tests again and ask Al to do the same.
Also I will do the stator to rotor magnet test, Al did this too but could not remove the bearing.

Regards
Rob

hartiberlin

#1632
January 24, 2008, 06:24:13 AM
Hi,
I have not studied all the pages over here,
but what I have seen so far and from my own experience
a pure permanent magnet motor with just permanent magnets
without iron in it will not work.

I don?t know, if Al?s video is a fake or not,
but seeing his second video, where he throws
his dissassembled motor into the trash bin
makes me wonder, what character he really is...

For those of you, who have the magnets now and parts,
maybe you can now easily convert this to a Helmut Goebkes
type motor,
which I posted sticky over here,
as I think this still is the only way how to get a permanent magnet
motor working with the right amount of iron metal in it:


http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3979.0.html

Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Bruce_TPU

#1633
January 24, 2008, 08:04:32 AM
 ??? ??? ???

Quote from: hartiberlin on January 24, 2008, 06:24:13 AM

(snip)
For those of you, who have the magnets now and parts,
maybe you can now easily convert this to a Helmut Goebkes
type motor,

(snip)


??? ???

With all due respect Stefan, if after 6 months, working on this, and no one sees anything of interest, nor any acceleration, nor any continued running with increased times, I would move on. 

But people have already seen the above and many of us are just now getting our parts.  No one has the correct rotor magnets, yet, IMHO.

So to think of taking all of our equipment, that cost a chunk of change and starting another project with it, at this time, makes no sense to me.

I read what you wrote at youtube about this motor, and I know that you think it is faked, but I do not, for too many reasons to list here first thing in the morning.

Warm regards,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

CLaNZeR

#1634
January 24, 2008, 12:19:01 PM
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