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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Omnibus

@vipond50,

The two bearings in my setup are mounted on the rotor itself. Their mass is negligible, though, compared to the rest.

Omnibus

@cub3,

Thanks for posting that text from @alsetalokin. No doubt it'd be art to get this to work. Nevertheless, I think some more detailed explanations and data won't hurt.

vipond50

Quote from: Omnibus on January 29, 2008, 12:52:29 PM
@vipond50,

The two bearings in my setup are mounted on the rotor itself. Their mass is negligible, though, compared to the rest.
Ok, just wanted to sure that I was following u, but the rotating mass of the shaft will have to added to the equation.
Not to be splitting hairs, but these are two different animals. I suppect and is demenstrated that the machined out portion of the Video rotor was
1. to provide an access for the bearing assembly mounting hardware and the tower of the Bearing assembly.
2. and or ? to remove mass of the rotor to match the orginal mass of the bearing mounted rotor(Repersented in the drawings).

Regards
Bill

ezzob

Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 04:22:41 PM
@ezzob,

I don't think that's the case. You may try it yourself--take two of these magnets and see that when they are repelling when placed parallel this won't change if you turn them around their axes. You can also measure the kgauss and see that there's a midpoint line on the cylindrical surface where the sign changes the same way all around. The shape of the field around the magnet may not be symmetric, though, and that's the main problem. Also, as I said a while ago, I'll be doing some experiments probably on Sunday with a batch of virgin magnets (that I've not used in my machine) and will compare their behavior to the rotor magnets I've already used to see if there's any discrepancy along the lines of eddy current degradation mentioned by Stefan. I saw something strange when performing the test suggested by @MeggerMan.

@MeggerMan,

Have you tried your repulsion test on rotor magnets which have already been in the rotor while carrying out experiments? Is the sameness of behavior when testing them SS verusus NN retained? And in general, does this 31mm remain the same?


Thanks Omnibus for the answer, that help a lot, i no now........but i dint tell about it

Omnibus

@vipond50,

Just to mention. The weight of the two bearing of the rotor is on the order of 3g. Thus, is is negligible compared to the discrepancy of 45g between my rotor and the rotor in the video (if 258g reflects its weight without the pulley).

The weight of my shaft is on the order of 9g but, as I said, it's not part of the rotor but is immovably attached to the perspex base.

What are your data? Probably other would want to post their data too.

These days I'll posting data concerning my N38 and N35 neos as well as probably some rpm measurements.

What I'd really like to see @alsetalokin post is the values of the magnetic induction at 5mm from the rotor (with no stators around), respectively at 5mm from each stator (the rest of the stators and the rotor absent) at, say, 1 degree increment. This will give us a good quantitative picture of the fields at play in his successful experiment.