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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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dean_mcgowan

Quote from: g4macdad on February 03, 2008, 11:14:09 AM
Quote from: dean_mcgowan on February 03, 2008, 06:41:16 AM
Quote from: vipond50 on February 03, 2008, 05:37:13 AM
Quote from: dean_mcgowan on February 03, 2008, 04:18:52 AM
Bruce,

Nice Vid!

I have sound too.. though i find it hard to perceive the acceleration. Is it at all possible that you can do this by fixing the stators in place with blue tac or something as I can't help but believe you are adding energy into the system (not accusing you of deliberate fakery).

Cheers,
Dean
@Dean
How could he add energy? He did not do any additional movements other than the start up.
hmmm.... maybe he was wiggling his fore finger  :D

Dean.... why don't U construct one of these little beast? Then U can answer all your own q"s
U must be thinking of the Steorn rep video where the guy was oscillating a magnet to induce rotation ?

Regards
Bill

Specs are too loose and no convincing reps so far, otherwise I would certainly try.

@dean_mcgowan
So, since you plan no attempt at replication, are we to assume that you are simply positioning yourself as a stumbling block to those who are?

If so, what is your ultimate gain if you are successful?

Absolutely contrary to your claim I am totally in favour, should Al offer a full specification and stop this ridiculous guessing game, of doing a complete precise replication with all exact parts at whatever cost.
Since he is not forthcoming with all of these details and will not post a video of the quality commensurate with such a discovery, be it OU or otherwise. Then i plan to voice my opinion of the folly of those that are attempting proofs and hope that they too would put more pressure to gain access to the necessary information.

Hence my success might benefit all involved.

I also am not part of some black book debunking project that some others might try to imply  ::)


Regards,

Dean

JFK

@ Dean - The fact of the matter is that Al denied overunity. 
Nevertheless he was barraged with claims that he did claim overunity and he was claimed to be a fraud and continues to be by persons like yourself.

Others with resources have attempted a replication and have discovered a strange magnetic anomoly. That alone should be investigated on it's own merits.

You are not helping, and indeed are hindering the efforts of these people investigating this phenomon with the attitude portrayed in your posts.

Why ?

Bruce_TPU

Good morning All,

The sound is fine on my copy of the video on my computer.  Any idea why it would not be on youtube?  I want all of you to hear it.  I am sorry the sound did not transfer well, and I don't know why.

Did all watch both video's?  Is the sound the same in both of them?

I will make one right next to the motor later today.  It will be more for sound than visual.

My Tachometer arrives Wednesday. 
Anyone I have shown it to in person, see and hear the acceleration.
The reason I spin it so fast to start off, is like I said earlier, there are certain RPM it seems to like.  It is only at these RPM's I see the effect.  One is at the very fast initial speed, another a bit less than that.  It will not accelerate at just any RPM.

It is cool, though, the last few seconds of a wind down.  It just keeps slowly spinning around.  And then it finally stop.  I will have to make a video of this too, so you all can see.  It just shows how close this thing is to being self running.   IMHO


@ Running Bear
Perhaps you can post the amplified wave file of my videos, for every one?

@ Dean
I can tape the stators.  I simply hold them because they are on bearings.  I simply did not want to get gunk on my base.  I still have a replication to make with this base.   

Cheers all,

Bruce 

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

FunkyJive

QuoteIt's a long shot but there could be an elastic function between the rotor and the stators whereby the stators store some of the energy imparted into the rotor and release it back again. looooooooong shot .. given that there is no quantitative measurements of acceleration.
If we could see that the stators slowed down in relation to the speed gain of the rotor .. then maybe .. but that doesnt seem apparent even from casual observations made of the videos.

Hi Dean.

Yes, sadly video's alone don't provide the frame synchronicity with the rotor in order to appropriately identify the smallest wobbles or point-by-point consistency.

If I had more time available then (as electronics is part of my game) I would probably have knocked-up an opto-reflective sensor to trigger frame-grabs from the rotor position. Irrespective of the rotational velocity, the sensor could slowly and progressively be moved around the rotor in attempting to record consistency and evidence of elasticity during rotation at different speeds (or points of resonance), along with resultant interaction of the moving parts. Replaying the compiled frames would result in very slow-motion video - independent of rotor speed.

I vaguely recall an earlier post claiming positive effects when the rotor weight was reduced, so I guess that the corresponding reduction in inertia could add weight to this possibility (no pun originally intended - sorry  :D).

Probably easier and just as-well to conduct superficial measurements and tuning though, given that the general specs of the claimed working unit are already defined.


FunkyJive
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RunningBare

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 03, 2008, 12:06:59 PM
Good morning All,


@ Running Bear
Perhaps you can post the amplified wave file of my videos, for every one?

I'm presently trying to filter the audio, but anyone can hear it if they have a graphic equalizer on there system, cut all frequencies except those from 200hz to 550hz, if need be boost these, to me the acceleration is definitely evident.
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@ Dean
I can tape the stators.  I simply hold them because they are on bearings.  I simply did not want to get gunk on my base.  I still have a replication to make with this base.   

Cheers all,

Bruce 



I suggest not using anything that will hold the stators solid, a rubber band around the stator and stretched to a fixed point, this will allow oscillation in the stator, you can also adjust the rubber band to increase or decrease sensitivity to oscillation.