Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[Omnibus]

By the way, did you find how this peak frequency analysis was done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7M3nasCdWI ? This may help in clarifying what really happens at the moments when AGW occurs. For these devices we're studying now, which are very far from the desired working model, the effect will probably be somewhere in the fine structure of the curve. If we can do such analysis it may help us avoid a more sophisticated tachometer to demonstrate the effect, if any.

EDIT: Now works.

[Schpankme]

... find how this peak frequency analysis was done: www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7M3nasCdWI?

Link Doesn't work; got another ?

- Schpankme

[Yadaraf]

@Yadaraf,

It's become clear that the acoustic properties of my rig are quite different from the original. Should this be of concern, however? Imagine that we know the exact parameters that would provide the proper timing for net forward push, would this be only achievable with particular materials, bearings, thicknesses, radii that would ensure the same acoustics? Suppose you observe the sounds in the frequency domain of various working internal combustion engines, will they exhibit similar patterns even though made by different manufacturers. Quite doubtful, unless you have evidence to the contrary which would be very interesting.

It would be interesting to see what @vipond50's, @Bruce_TPU's and anybody else's spectra will be and if there would be any common features and not a total mess. That's just out of curiosity. You wouldn't expect such analysis to bring any clues as to the direction of research, would you?

Now, purely mechanically it seems that the device likes a lighter rotor. Like I said, I don't see any difference when N42 magnets are replaced with N38 or N35. However, with this lighter rotor (237g) AGW locking is easier and the fewer the stators the easier it gets. Very good AGW results are obtained with only two stators outstanding almost diagonally from each other. What's most intriguing is that at the moment the AGW is achieved it seems that a tendency towards acceleration is felt momentarily which promptly disappears. This has to be confirmed, however, quantitatively with a better tachometer than the one I have. It seems that the main reason for getting out of sync (although still in AGW rotation) is the wrong proportion between the weights and probably the wrong proportion of the magnetic field strengths. How are these to be fine tuned is a real challenge.

Omni,

RE "It's become clear that the acoustic properties of my rig are quite different from the original."
Please keep in mind that the tones in Al's video might be emanating from heating ducts or something else that resonates.

RE "You wouldn't expect such analysis to bring any clues as to the direction of research, would you?"
Depends on certain assumptions.  As you know, it's possible to shatter crystal with sound waves.  How about about sonoluminescence?  My point is that tones -- on their own -- could be important to the device.  When one of the stators is subjected to low frequencies around 170 Hz, there might be a measurable displacement -- a "micro" oscillation of the stator.

RE "What's most intriguing is that at the moment the AGW is achieved it seems that a tendency towards acceleration is felt momentarily which promptly disappears."
I hear you.  It's like starting a car when the timing is not set correctly.  It's very difficult to start, if not impossible.  Once it starts, however, it's likely to keep running because the timing changes as the RPM increase.  On my car, the timing changes 32 degrees between 0 RPM and 5200 RPM.  I wouldn't put past this device to benefit from a timing curve (a.k.a. power curve).

I analyzed Bruce's video the other day.  I need to look at it again, focusing on the chatter when the stator oscillates.

Cheers,   

Yada..
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[Yadaraf]

... find how this peak frequency analysis was done: www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7M3nasCdWI?

Link Doesn't work; got another ?

- Schpankme

Schpankme ,

Here's the correct link:

... http://youtube.com/watch?v=v7M3nasCdWI

Although I haven't found out who created this video, I discovered that the source of the video is the WMV file at CLaNZeR's site and not the YouTube FLV.  The audio is quite different.  It's possible that the WMV was created from the FLV.  I have to check.

... http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/alsvideo.wmv

In the WMV I can observe what "appears" to be a frequency shift between 144 Hz and 174 Hz, but I'm still not certain, because the 2nd harmonic of the power line is quite obvious at 120 Hz.  I just got the video today, and tomorrow I hope to study it some more.  One thing is for certain, we should stop analyzing the YouTube video (i.e. FLV file).

Q:  If someone can find out from CLaNZeR if the WMV is an original and not extracted from the FLV, that would help.


Cheers,   

Yada..
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[magpower]

Update:

I just got my proper magnets from K/J that I ordered from Jan 5. Seems they got lost somewhere and even ordered another lot and this came within 2 weeks. So both almost came same time. I thought I might ask anyone with a CNC mill is willing to make a rotor or even sell me a older version I might like. would prefer small center hole so I can use my bearings. Please 
PM me.

Thanks
Wayne