New setup. Need adjustable test rig.

[phonicboom]

There are 2 ways to see what I'm trying to do...

Background and ideas http://peswiki.com/index.php/Perpetually_Rotating_Bar_Magnet_Arrangement

Animations and ideas http://www.chriswilshaw.info/free-energy-with-magnets.htm

Main points;

Rig needs outer and inner set to be adjustable once setup so must not be attached to same frame. The position of the outer set will have to be offset from apparent position by 2 or 3 degrees clockwise by hand to remove symmetry and ballance.

Magnet angles will need adjustment so should not be fixed unless prior test of angles has been made on a separate rig. Magnet angle is critical as when the magnet on the ring approaches a fixed magnet it will feel a negative push against the fixed magnets side, yet it will be further from said magnet (due to the angle of approach) than when it is in the positive push position (end to end with fixed magnet).

anyway its beyond my capacity for writing and beyond my staring at animations and now calls for a test rig. Notice several setups aiming at a similar end do call for an adjustable rig.

Cheers.

[phonicboom]

there is more to my idea that the first few lines

No, It is meant to say ideal as that section you read up to was the main ideal ?A self starting system due to the system only having dominate clockwise potential? - if you had read further you would have seen several ideas

As for the working prototype on you tube, it is quite different; there is more than one way to float a flying saucer.

My ideas are several and can be reduced to one major one and that is to remove system balance thereby having a system that would start under its own arrangement as every position within 360degrees is in a positive state - no external force required.

Of course ideas have similarities; yet reading the first line of a proposal does not aid any of them. The current hot interest on you tube would have quite a different history if no one read past the first line of that proposal If my idea is precisely the same as a previous one then I need to be made aware of it so I can compare notes. That would either tell me that my idea will fail due to X or that it is sufficiently different as I feel it is because my mental viewing of the idea shows positive results.

Should anyone have the ability to test a rig, please do, thanks, I'm not here to argue and may have read into the previous post too much as it did seem off hand for a forum where new ideas are to be floated. No idea is completely new and innovation can come in all shapes and sizes - no offense meant, I hope for a pleasant stay here,

cheers

[phonicboom]

Hi,

Ideas on construction?

I ordered magnets today and am now thinking on a simple home construction.

any ideas welcomed.

I had no previous knowledge of this forum or the amount of people into these ideas, i really thought most people were either not interested or convinced it can't work. The life on this forum has encouraged me.

I hope the infamous "you tube" idea comes off and that the flood gates open with innovation. I think this can be done and I think it can be done in many ways. Ellipses, cams and low power electro magnet assistance should all be considered as ways for beating the sticky spot. (or more that they should be re-re-reconsidered until they work)

I am probably a couple of weeks away from finding fault in my ideas  but I want to try like I used to want to play with Lego - it's fun 

Two things I have issue with in the idea I am going for are;

1) sticking, the negative pushes I've noted in my animations being much stronger than I foresaw

2) magnet destruction/degradation due to running similar poles too near each other.

but it could be something altogether different, wait and see...

I'd like some input... I think theres much to learn from those who disagree with you, and I'd like building tips e.g simple rigs people have used that I can make at home

thanks,

Chris

[eavogels]

I did some testing with the basic idea, allthough there are still many variants to test. I attached some results.

The simulations looked definently better: http://fdp.nu/animations/default.htm

Eric

[phonicboom]

I did some testing with the basic idea

thats interesting to see 

I'm testing at home with pieces of paper and a pencil - highly inaccurate but still fun.

Could you do a test with the specific number of magnets I have in my animation?

that is 9 magnets on the rotating ring and 32 static pushers,

it seems to me that will give a positive push on 6/9 magnets at every degree and cause rotation.