DEBATE THREAD

Omnibus · January 25, 2008, 11:04:04 AM

The experiment (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2383887636280790847) proving violation of CoE is presented schematically here: http://omnibus.fortunecity.com/smot.gif (if the link doesn?t open hit Reload). Denote the mass of ball by m, the gravitational constant by g, the magnetic potential energy at points A and B respectively by Ma and Mb, the heights to raise the ball from point A to B and from B to C respectively h1 and h2, kinetic (and other) energy by Kc.

If CoE is to be obeyed then only the amount (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) of the entire amount (mgh1 + Mb) at B will transform into other energies upon the return of the ball from B to A. Amount (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) is the amount of energy imparted to the ball.

In SMOT, however, the entire amount of energy (mgh1 + mgh2 + Kc) the ball has at point C which is greater than the amount (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) imparted to the ball is transformed into other energies upon the return of the ball at A. This is in clear violation of CoE.

RunningBare · January 25, 2008, 11:05:15 AM

Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 11:02:35 AM
Quote from: RunningBare on January 25, 2008, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 10:43:36 AM
Like I said, the measurement in @alsetalokin's first video is messy and no advocacy can save it.

Well Omni, I was trying to help out, but obviously your the perfect person so no one has a hells chance in aiding you.
That's the wrong thread to post this, isn't it?

No, I dont want to pollute the other thread, thats what this one is for.

Omnibus · January 25, 2008, 11:06:40 AM

Quote from: RunningBare on January 25, 2008, 11:05:15 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 11:02:35 AM
Quote from: RunningBare on January 25, 2008, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 10:43:36 AM
Like I said, the measurement in @alsetalokin's first video is messy and no advocacy can save it.

Well Omni, I was trying to help out, but obviously your the perfect person so no one has a hells chance in aiding you.
That's the wrong thread to post this, isn't it?

No, I dont want to pollute the other thread, thats what this one is for.

You're polluting any thread you post in, not just this one.

RunningBare · January 25, 2008, 11:31:32 AM

Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 11:06:40 AM
You're polluting any thread you post in, not just this one.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3949.msg73139.html#msg73139

Omnibus · January 25, 2008, 11:34:44 AM

Quote from: RunningBare on January 25, 2008, 11:31:32 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 11:06:40 AM
You're polluting any thread you post in, not just this one.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3949.msg73139.html#msg73139

That's correct. Read it carefully because it applies especially to you. Stop polluting the discussions.