DEBATE THREAD

[RunningBare]

Come on omni, shows us yours you big hunk of stuff,..... lets see your replication of the whipmag.

[Low-Q]

The equations already posted categorically prove violation of CoE in SMOT.

If CoE is to be obeyed then only the amount (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) of the entire amount (mgh1 + Mb) at B will transform into other energies upon the return of the ball from B to A. Amount (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) is the amount of energy imparted to the ball..

In SMOT, however, the entire amount of energy (mgh1 + mgh2 + Kc) which is greater than the amount (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) imparted to the ball is transformed into other energies upon the return of the ball at A. This is in clear violation of CoE.

The following is common knowledge, and basic physics.

As I have mentioned before: It takes no energy to move an object angular to a magnetic field and angular to gravity. Compare, and add up the angles and forces of both gravity and magnetism during the whole operation A-B-C-A, and you'll see that there is no extra energy applied to the ball. The ball must defy gravity and/or magnetic force in the loop A-B-C-A to gain energy, but this far there is no proof of such.

The ball would not be able to determine which way it would travel if point B was at the correct position. Point B in your calculations is not at the correct place, but a little bit too close the SMOT - where magnetism is more influed on the ball than the gravity is. The extra energy gained in the ball from B - C is therefor allready applied when the hand did place the ball at point B.
The ball must be placed where gravity and magnetic force cancels out. As I said: Point B is not at the correct place in yout calculations.

IMHO

Cheers!

[Omnibus]

The equations already posted categorically prove violation of CoE in SMOT.

If CoE is to be obeyed then only the amount (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) of the entire amount (mgh1 + Mb) at B will transform into other energies upon the return of the ball from B to A. Amount (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) is the amount of energy imparted to the ball..

In SMOT, however, the entire amount of energy (mgh1 + mgh2 + Kc) which is greater than the amount (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) imparted to the ball is transformed into other energies upon the return of the ball at A. This is in clear violation of CoE.

The following is common knowledge, and basic physics.

As I have mentioned before: It takes no energy to move an object angular to a magnetic field and angular to gravity. Compare, and add up the angles and forces of both gravity and magnetism during the whole operation A-B-C-A, and you'll see that there is no extra energy applied to the ball. The ball must defy gravity and/or magnetic force in the loop A-B-C-A to gain energy, but this far there is no proof of such.

The ball would not be able to determine which way it would travel if point B was at the correct position. Point B in your calculations is not at the correct place, but a little bit too close the SMOT - where magnetism is more influed on the ball than the gravity is. The extra energy gained in the ball from B - C is therefor allready applied when the hand did place the ball at point B.
The ball must be placed where gravity and magnetic force cancels out. As I said: Point B is not at the correct place in yout calculations.

IMHO

Cheers!

Like I've told you many times regarding that "argument", it's nonsense.

[Low-Q]

Your calcs is correct, but are based on wrong conditions.

[Omnibus]

Your calcs is correct, but are based on wrong conditions.

Never mind. Don't bother. You have no clue.