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Gaussian Gun Theory - need input.

Started by nwman, January 20, 2008, 07:20:30 PM

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nwman

Schpankme,

I'll have to look into that. I know I only need two on the one side but for my diagram more was better. Also, by adding more it might pull the row of balls more to one side if that is needed.

So what do you think about my idea of using a ring magnet?
Do you think it will have the same affect?
Would you have any pictures like that last one expressing the fields at the moment of impact?
Do you think it might even work if the balls are centered in the ring magnet?

I thought it was the kenetic energy the launched the ball and not any kind of magnetic field fluctuation.

Tim

phonicboom

Are you picturing newtons balls (oops a pun)

http://fas.harvard.edu/~scidemos/NewtonianMechanics/NewtonsCradle/NewtonsCradle.html

maybe I misunderstood, as is my tendency,

but it would be similar to newtons cradle but with more friction so would come to rest quicker

??

Schpankme

Quote from: nwman on January 20, 2008, 10:37:45 PM... what about my idea of using a ring magnet?

Hello Tim,

I have no experience with ring magnets and the mentioned device.  My first thought is; the ring magnet would have interfering poles; but you may rule that out with experimentation.

- Schpankme


nwman

Quote from: phonicboom on January 20, 2008, 11:12:20 PM
Are you picturing newtons balls (oops a pun)

http://fas.harvard.edu/~scidemos/NewtonianMechanics/NewtonsCradle/NewtonsCradle.html

maybe I misunderstood, as is my tendency,

but it would be similar to newtons cradle but with more friction so would come to rest quicker

??
phonicboom,

It is exactly like Newtons cradle when referring to how it launches the ball on the right. However my "idea" is that if you can make the firing ball(for the lack of a better description) pass through the magnet after launching the ball on the right(referring to my graphics) then there is a chance of acceleration in the system. Because.....

When you would start the action you would slowly push the firing ball close to the left side of the ring magnet which would then attract it. Once the firing ball makes contact with the row of ball the newtons cradle effect happens launching the ball on the right. And then "if" after launching, all the balls shift/hang to the right the row of balls then return to their original configuration. However you now have the "launched" ball traveling around a loop track (for simplicity) and circling around back to the start with forward kinetic energy.

So now when the ball comes around it "theoretically" has kinetic energy as it enters the field of the magnet and is attracted back to the magnet. This adds the same amount of force to the ball as before but now instead of starting at a stopped position the ball is rolling in with kinetic energy thus adding more energy to the kinetic energy in the Newton's cradle effect.

Hopefully the ball launched from this cycle will have more then the last firing and amplify the affect in the system instead of decelerating.

So what needs to happen for this to possibly work is the fallowing:

1) The Newton's cradle effect has to work with the configuration using a ring magnet.

2) After firing, the row of ball bearings need to re-configure to the previous arrangement by themselves. (Tilting the track idea)

3) The launched ball needs to have enough energy to travel around/up enough to re-enter the magnets field from the opposite side with positive kinetic energy. (From the videos this should happen)

I think if the above it possible then it should work. I am ordering the parts to test these ideas. Anyone have any thoughts or comments? Am I assuming too much here?

Tim

phonicboom

i love the idea,

i see how the shift to center of all the other balls is essential as that is where the magnet adds to the newtons cradle system..

unfortunately i have nothing useful above that;

i think its ingenious

i think friction is the main killer

i watch with great interest if you can develop this :)