My s1r9a9m9 replication!

[Jokker]

I guess u can get power from external source for testing, or u can use car alternator (~1 KW @ normal rpm) ..for testing.
But yea idea is great  .  Ur using electrolysis to get some hydrogen and due hydrogen explosions what makes hight temperatures ...water expands (vaporizes) what is needed to run engine. 

Atm. im learning thermodynamics at school... And as u know at basic chemistry that u will need extreme conditions to get effective reaction. So it makes that u need very hight temperature ... volume (const) that makes pressure growing up ... and result is faster reaction and more energy.

Although water a steam (vapor) is way good way to run engine coz it is expanding exponentially.

It is very thermodynamical picture on what u can see idea "idea" 




Im pretty sure that there are thermodynamic simulators available on internet.
So u need to find balance between energy u put in and form of energy u want to get out (heat, expanding  btw thease2 are pretty much linked ...)

Try to increase input power im pretty sure u will see grater results 

Good luck !

[hydrocontrol]

I don't know why luc created the other thread.  We have gotten excellent results with capacitor70's circuit.  User jcbx6 over in the waterfuel1978 group has gotten his volvo to run on water with the same circuit capcitor70 is using.  So over here we are making progress rapidly.  The postal service is slower than molasses so I still have to wait before I can get mine working too.

By the way, I don't think this system uses THAT much electricity that it would drain a battery.  You would need two, however, because the starter motor drags down the voltage so much it would put the inverter in self protect mode.

Looking good so far, full steam ahead.

?? We have gotten excellent results with capacitor70's circuit ??
Is this the circuit with the SCR's or with the diodes he just fried a few post ago ?
Perhaps we can have a sticky with the current working circuit that can be updated as improvements are made.

I think Luc started his thread before the circuit was posted as he was trying to figure out what was in 'the can' for the lawnmower video and was trying different ideas.

If we 'as a group' can come up with common 'off the shelf' parts to replicate running a lawnmower engine, then if one hundred + of us got engines running all over the world and released it on a certain date then the media attention would be too enormous to ignore and would be a lot harder to suppress.

[resonanceman]

media attention would be too enormous to ignore and would be a lot harder to suppress.

It  is not likely to happen like this .........the media was bought  and paid for  a long time ago ..

It has to happen by one person helping   friends to  get free of   big energy .
Those  friends  then  need to help  their  friends .

Once the media notices  what is going on ...........and the powers that be see that it is  to big to stop ..........THEN  the media  will  get involved .

gary

[Shanti]

@resonanceman: Actually I'm not quite as paranoid...

Just as remark.

I saw you people are using Electrolyte Capacitors for the LV part.
If you do this, you have to be aware of certain facts:

* They are not made to withstand sudden discharges over a longer time!!! This means they will not live very long under such conditions!!!
* They have quite a high ESR, Even the low ESR types!!! This means, that even if you short them, the discharge current will not be very big, compared to a discharge cap. This means a good Electrolyte cap discharges maybe at about 10-40Amps and a discharge cap at about 1-4kAmps (1000-4000Amps)!!! Sure the discharge caps do cost a lot more. If you would like to get a good one which can also withstand high frequency discharges in the range of about 300uF they cost about $200 (e.g. 3x100uF of the WIMA  GTO Caps, which would be able to yield a 12'000Amp discharge)

The second fact is therefore interesting as with the current circuit in my opinion it would not work with discharge caps, for the amp load on the diodes would be far too big. But if one would change the layout, it could work.

It would really be interesting to see the bang difference between a discharge cap and an electrolyte cap.

Pro for the discharge cap : Much more Amps, is made to withstand high frequency discharges
Pro for the electrolyte cap: Is cheap, Due to the high ESR, the discharge is slow, and therefore the bang will be strechted longer in time.

[Jokker]

Capacitors are very very different and they got also very different characteristic charts.