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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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OilBarren

Quote from: aether22 on March 20, 2008, 10:39:38 PM
First I suggest no one actually talk to PB, utter waste of time, he's a spook and if not then he's got some kind of problem, at any rate you are talking to a brick wall. (IF he isn't a dishonest skeptic or a spook then I have nothing against him and would not wish to insult him but he'd still be about as receptive as a Brick wall)

I THINK PB IS ACTUALLY MY 85 YEAR OLD NEIGHBOUR - MRS. FLATBOTTOM? THAT'S WHY SHE WON'T COME TO THE LAB.

Thane

OilBarren

I completely agree, Thane. That's why I think it's so important to draw our conclusions from objective measurements and results - because they are free of "external influences on our perception" and "internal tendencies".  PB

YOU MEAN LIKE SUGGESTING THE SYSTEM MUST RUN AT 3500 RPM TO OBSERVE ACCELERATION BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT CANNOT BE OBSERVED (EVEN THOUGH MAGNETS ARE FLYING OFF THE ROTOR)?

OR THAT THE STARTING CAPACITOR CAUSES ACCELERATION BUT ONLY AFTER THE COILS ARE SHORTED (BUT NOT BEFORE)?

OR THAT THE STARTING CAPACITOR WAITS UNTIL THE COILS ARE SHORTED BEFORE CAUSING ACCELERATION?

OR THAT EVEN THOUGH THE STARTING CAPACITOR CAN BE PHYSICALLY REMOVED AND THE EFFECT STILL REMAINS - IT STILL IS THE CAPACITOR THAT CAUSES THE EFFECTS?

THE SPLIT-PHASE INDUCTION MOTOR (DEMO PART 4 - WHICH DOES NOT HAVE A STARTING CAPACITOR) HAS BEEN ACCELERATED UP TO IT'S NAMEPLATE SPEED OF 1740 RPM USING THE GENERATOR COILS.

THE BEST ONE:
OR THAT A MOTOR THAT IS OPPERATING AT ITS MAXIMUM SPEED AS DICTATED BY THE LINE FREQUENCY - WILL SOMEHOW ACCELERATE BEYOND THIS MAXIMUM SPEED SO THAT THE SLIP ANGLE BETWEEN THE ROTOR AND STATOR IS NOW LESS THAN ZERO?

PB - I AM STARTING TO GET THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY A SNAKE IN THE GRASS HERE TO DRAIN "ENERGY" AND ENTHUSIASM FROM THIS THREAD - THE INFORMATION YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE IS SIMPLY BEYOND COMPREHENSION.

Thane

OilBarren

Quote from: ramset on March 20, 2008, 07:55:10 PM
PB another invite ???? how do you resist?? RESEARCH  !!!!!   Chet

DEAR ALL,

I HAVE POSTED THE FOLLOWING LETTER ON A CHEVRON SPONSORED ENERGY WEBSITE. http://www.willyoujoinus.com/discussion/
IT WILL TAKE ABOUT 24 HOURS TO BE POSTED.

Thane

New Electric Generator Technology & NASA Abstract

Dear will you join us,

Please allow me to introduce you to our technology to you all. It is currently being researched at the University of Ottawa and reviewed by NASA.  More layman friendly information can be found on the links below.

In a nutshell our electric generator causes the prime mover (induction motor) to accelerate under load. This appears to be in conflict with several laws of physics.
We are currently installing our generator technology into an electric vehicle and should have an automobile on the road by May or June.

http://keyrecords.com/designers.html
www.thestar.com/Business/article/300042
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=31887883-be00-4d3c-8763-d96564794cae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogLeKTlLy5E

NASA Abstract

The objectives of the Potential Difference Inc. Perepiteia Generator study are to determine what effects can be obtained by:

Magnetically coupling a salient pole electric generator with an induction motor (prime mover) such that the generator?s load current and corresponding Back EMF induced magnetic fields (according to Lenz?s Law) are coupled directly to the induction motor?s rotor.

The study is currently being undertaken at the University of Ottawa under the supervision of Dr. Riadh Habash which includes efficiency calculations and observations for the prototype when operating in a ?conventional generator? mode.

Direct comparisons have be made between the Conventional Generator which decelerates the prime mover under load according the Law of Conservation of Energy and the Magnetically Coupled Generator application which accelerates the induction motor-prime mover under load.

To date it has been quantifiably observed that magnetically coupling the Salient Pole Generator to the induction motor has immediate benefits in providing an efficiency-enhancing positive feedback loop such that the generator load causes induction motor acceleration which is dependant upon load magnitude, i.e. increasing the load increases the induction motor?s acceleration (decreasing stator current draw from the source) and increasing the generator output power across the load as well. 

The significance of the results suggest that the efficiency of electricity generation can be significantly improved in electric vehicles or in conventional electric generators where different prime movers are employed.

polarbreeze

Quote from: OilBarren on March 21, 2008, 08:32:22 AM
Quote from: aether22 on March 20, 2008, 10:39:38 PM
First I suggest no one actually talk to PB, utter waste of time, he's a spook and if not then he's got some kind of problem, at any rate you are talking to a brick wall. (IF he isn't a dishonest skeptic or a spook then I have nothing against him and would not wish to insult him but he'd still be about as receptive as a Brick wall)

I THINK PB IS ACTUALLY MY 85 YEAR OLD NEIGHBOUR - MRS. FLATBOTTOM? THAT'S WHY SHE WON'T COME TO THE LAB.

Thane

Now I know where you live :)

polarbreeze

Quote from: OilBarren on March 21, 2008, 08:56:40 AM
I completely agree, Thane. That's why I think it's so important to draw our conclusions from objective measurements and results - because they are free of "external influences on our perception" and "internal tendencies".  PB

PB - I AM STARTING TO GET THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY A SNAKE IN THE GRASS HERE TO DRAIN "ENERGY" AND ENTHUSIASM FROM THIS THREAD - THE INFORMATION YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE IS SIMPLY BEYOND COMPREHENSION.

Thane

I don't dispute any of your observations. I am not ignoring any of that information. The issue, though, is to figure out what it means - what it proves or suggests. Here's the problem: speed is not the same thing as power. There are a thousand ways you can set up an electromagnetic system like this with very high EM drag pulling down the speed, and then perturb the fields so that the drag is reduced and the motor speeds up. This does NOT demonstrate that there is any power gain, or even suggest that there is. What's needed is to devise an experiment that clearly demonstrates a power gain. That's what's missing.