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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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ramset

PB another invite ???? how do you resist?? RESEARCH  !!!!!   Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

aether22

First I suggest no one actually talk to PB, utter waste of time, he's a spook and if not then he's got some kind of problem, at any rate you are talking to a brick wall. (IF he isn't a dishonest skeptic or a spook then I have nothing against him and would not wish to insult him but he'd still be about as receptive as a Brick wall)

As for the laminated steel speeding it up, of course it would, if you recall I made a post about my realization that in open magnetic circuits where flux leaves the core over it's length strong eddy currents circulate in a single laminate which are entirely absent in a correctly designed closed magnetic flux path.

In other words the laminate is still a short circuit.

Thane, just to verify it is as we speak "In the mail" right?
I'd also note that if you can tell me what I'd need to prepare first I should be able to get it up and running sooner.
At any rate I will be out of town for about a week from the 3rd of April.

1: Did you include a coupler? (I guess you would have since initially you were also going to send the motor also)

2:  I guess I need to add (a pair of?) of bearings to the shaft (and stand) to hold it in place, then just place my stator coil/s around the rotor and go?
So I need x2 half inch (ID) bearings for the shaft?

Basically if you can detail anything I might need to buy or build that I can do before it arrives that would be appreciated, want to get experimentation done before my trip, if you are too busy to detail such that's cool too, you have helped me more than I would have ever imagined already and I intend to make you very glad you have.

Also do you know how great the gap between steel shaft pieces can be before the effect goes away? Is light touching strongly encouraged or is a very tiny sub millimeter gap Ok? (I suppose since a plexiglass rotor works it must be Ok?)

Thanks, Oh and :)
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

polarbreeze

Quote from: OilBarren on March 20, 2008, 06:40:20 PM
Quote from: polarbreeze on March 20, 2008, 05:59:31 PM
Quote from: OilBarren on March 20, 2008, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: polarbreeze on March 20, 2008, 04:27:05 PM
Are your latest tests using the motor they recommended, or are you still using the one they had issues with?

THE LAST TIME I CHECKED - I RECALL THAT I DON'T WORK FOR KINECTRICS NOR DO I CONCERN MYSELF WITH OTHER PEOPLES ISSUES.
...
Thane

As you submitted your invention to them for testing for a third party opinion, I'd assumed you'd chosen Kinectrics as a trusted authority on the subject. So when they found basic problems with your experimental setup and offered a clear and simple solution so you could do a truly objective test, I'm surprised that you didn't at least try out their recommendation. Why is that?

WHO SAID I DIDN'T?

You. And if you did, why do you choose not to publish the results?

polarbreeze

Quote from: OilBarren on March 20, 2008, 07:03:47 PM

MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE "FACTS" OF ANY REPORT ARE THE MEANING WE ATTRIBUTE TO THOSE FACTS.  IT IS CRUCIAL, THEREFORE TO BE AWARE NOT ONLY OF EXTERNAL INFLUENCES ON OUR PERCEPTION - THE INHERENT BIASES IN INFORMATION SOURCES SUCH AS EDUCATION ETC. BUT ALSO OUR INTERNAL TENDENCIES.


I completely agree, Thane. That's why I think it's so important to draw our conclusions from objective measurements and results - because they are free of "external influences on our perception" and "internal tendencies".

OilBarren

Thane, just to verify it is as we speak "In the mail" right?
I'd also note that if you can tell me what I'd need to prepare first I should be able to get it up and running sooner.
At any rate I will be out of town for about a week from the 3rd of April.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE - BUT IN ADDITION TO THE ROTOR YOU WILL NEED:

A.  MOTOR W/ 1/2 INCH ARBOR
B.  A GENERATING COIL
C.  A MULTIMETER OR 2
D.  A VARIAC OR FAN SPEED CONTROL

1: Did you include a coupler? (I guess you would have since initially you were also going to send the motor also)

NO I DID NOT YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN OUT OF PVC PIPE OR COPPER ETC.

2:  I guess I need to add (a pair of?) of bearings to the shaft (and stand) to hold it in place, then just place my stator coil/s around the rotor and go?
OR JUST PUT THE ROTOR DIRECTLY ON THE MOTOR AS powerunlimited DID.
YOU ONLY NEED ONE STATOR COIL TO GET THE EFFECT.

So I need x2 half inch (ID) bearings for the shaft?
THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING

Basically if you can detail anything I might need to buy or build that I can do before it arrives that would be appreciated, want to get experimentation done before my trip, if you are too busy to detail such that's cool too, you have helped me more than I would have ever imagined already and I intend to make you very glad you have.
PUT ME IN YOUR WILL - I'LL TAKE THE 10,000 ACRE SHEEP FARM, THANKS

Also do you know how great the gap between steel shaft pieces can be before the effect goes away? Is light touching strongly encouraged or is a very tiny sub millimeter gap Ok? (I suppose since a plexiglass rotor works it must be Ok?)
YOU WILL HAVE TO EXPERIMENT AND FIND THE ONE THAT SUITS YOUR SETUP BEST.

Thanks, Oh and :)
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