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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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JustMe

Quote from: OilBarren on March 21, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
YOU MEAN LIKE IN AN ELECTRIC DUNE BUGGY?
JUSTME IF YOU LIVED IN CARP - ENDLESS TEDIUM WOULD BE THE HIGH POINT OF YOUR DAY.

Thane

Yes, like an electric dune buggy.  Didn't want to say something self evident in a post about self evidence.

I truly hope you succeed.

OilBarren

Quote from: JustMe on March 21, 2008, 05:43:56 PM
Quote from: OilBarren on March 21, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
YOU MEAN LIKE IN AN ELECTRIC DUNE BUGGY?
JUSTME IF YOU LIVED IN CARP - ENDLESS TEDIUM WOULD BE THE HIGH POINT OF YOUR DAY.

Thane

Yes, like an electric dune buggy.  Didn't want to say something self evident in a post about self evidence.

I truly hope you succeed.

I THINK THAT IS SELF EVIDENT.
Thanks
Thane

p.s.
now I wonder if we can "resurrect" old PB from the dark side?

polarbreeze

Quote from: LarryC on March 21, 2008, 04:39:35 PM

But I'd like to try to understand your statement.

First we have a rotor with large Neo's spinning next to iron core coils. When the rotor is not magnetically connected to the motor and the coils are shorted the rotor stops. I use to think that was because of the large amount of mechanical work needed to pass these charged coils. Are you saying that it does not take mechanical work only heat?

Then with magnetically coupled rotor the power goes down and rotor speeds up. I'm not sure exactly why it sped up but the rotor with large Neo's is still spinning next to a charged coil and you would normally think, that would require even more mechanical work to accomplish that speed up. Now this is where I'm really confused, we loss 100W of heat. Now that we have less heat why did the motor speed up?

Also I'd like to know how all the observable mechanically work is being done by heat.



No, you've got it kind of backwards. Here?s a thought-experiment that might help to explain it better:

Sit in your car with one foot on the gas and the other foot on the brake. You can make the car go along at a constant speed by adjusting your foot pressure just right. Now, ease off your brake foot just a bit. The car will accelerate; then ease off on the gas just a bit until you?re at a new constant (higher) speed.

Result: the car is going faster and it?s using less gas. The reason it?s using less gas is that less heat is being dissipated in the brake.

This is what?s happening in Thane?s system. The magnet/coil system is analogous to the brake; and the electrical input to the motor is analogous to the gas.

Hope that helps.


OilBarren

THE ONLY REAL AND TRUTHFUL DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU ADD A 3" STEEL BAR BETWEEN THE MOTOR AND THE BRAKE - THE BRAKE NOW BECOMES A MOTOR AND THE MOTOR IS STILL A MOTOR.

SO NOW YOU HAVE 2 MOTORS AND NO BRAKES UNLESS OF COURSE YOU REMOVE THAT MAGIC STEEL BAR THEN YOU HAVE YOUR BRAKES BACK.

IT'S NOT WHAT PEOPLE SAY THAT IS IMPORTANT - BUT RATHER WHAT THEY DON'T.
YOU HAVE TO READ BETWEEN THE LIES.

Thane


LarryC

Quote from: polarbreeze on March 21, 2008, 06:15:43 PM
Quote from: LarryC on March 21, 2008, 04:39:35 PM

But I'd like to try to understand your statement.

First we have a rotor with large Neo's spinning next to iron core coils. When the rotor is not magnetically connected to the motor and the coils are shorted the rotor stops. I use to think that was because of the large amount of mechanical work needed to pass these charged coils. Are you saying that it does not take mechanical work only heat?

Then with magnetically coupled rotor the power goes down and rotor speeds up. I'm not sure exactly why it sped up but the rotor with large Neo's is still spinning next to a charged coil and you would normally think, that would require even more mechanical work to accomplish that speed up. Now this is where I'm really confused, we loss 100W of heat. Now that we have less heat why did the motor speed up?

Also I'd like to know how all the observable mechanically work is being done by heat.



No, you've got it kind of backwards. HereÃ,’s a thought-experiment that might help to explain it better:

Sit in your car with one foot on the gas and the other foot on the brake. You can make the car go along at a constant speed by adjusting your foot pressure just right. Now, ease off your brake foot just a bit. The car will accelerate; then ease off on the gas just a bit until youÃ,’re at a new constant (higher) speed.

Result: the car is going faster and itÃ,’s using less gas. The reason itÃ,’s using less gas is that less heat is being dissipated in the brake.

This is whatÃ,’s happening in ThaneÃ,’s system. The magnet/coil system is analogous to the brake; and the electrical input to the motor is analogous to the gas.

Hope that helps.



Bravo PB,

You are certainly one of the greatest example of a overenergy crusher master that I have seen. You have been paid to destroy any belief in Thane's process. It doesn't matter what truth is thrown at you, you will deflect and try to create a new one. My email to you was only an attempt to get you to understand known physics in the hope that you were not such an evil individual. But as usual you change the subject. You would burn up in the light of  true science. Quit bothering Thane!

No regards,
LarryC