Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[hoptoad]

My setup didn't perform as well as the rest and no oscilloscope, so I'll leave the testing to them.

One observation: After my motor accelerated about 200 rpms, I connected a large 3 amp 120V to 12V transformer and it slowed back down to starting point??? Unusual, because my setup had the odd feature of not slowing down after removing the short.

Regards,
Larry

While dual scope oscilliscope shots are high on my wish list  ,  simple incremental voltage and current readings are still important useful data.
Even if you don't have data such as rpm, induction, and a host of other parameters, you (we) can still gain some understanding of the relationship between the coils and the magnets, using graphed power curves based on real time measurements, for both input and output. The greater the number of incrementally stepped load readings, the more enlightening the data will be.

At some stage in the incremental loading, you will observe the acceleration effect which will increase as the load approaches S/C.
Noting where it begins to appears on the O/P power curve is a good start. Publishing your results is beneficial to all, even if the results are of a failed coil system.

Just having data for O/C, a single load setting, and then S/C is not enough for an accurate analysis which could lead to optimizing the effect.

Cheers

[OUman]

No, I'm asking questions because I'm in search of actual data in order to advance my own learning and understanding of this phenomenon.

Oh what a pile of poo. 

Indeed it is, since such data seems to be completely absent.

[springfield]

IS a ferromagnetic material required or not (the PVC would indicate "not")?  So, what about the brass ...?       

I BELIEVE THAT THE BRASS COUPLING EXPERIMENT WHEN "MAGNETICLLY COUPLED" WITH THE STEEL BAR - RAISED THE INDUCTION MOTOR SPEED TO ABOVE THE CRITICAL THRESHOLD SPEED REQUIRED TO CAUSE ACCELERATION.

ORIGINAL YOUTUBE DEMO VIDEOS BEAR THIS OUT BECAUSE PART 2 IS ROTATING FASTER THAN PART 1 (READ THE "TACH METER" TO THE RIGHT) WHEN THE STEEL BAR IS INSERTED. WE KNOW FROM PART 5 THAT AN EXTERNALLY APPLIED DC MAGNETIC FIELD CAN INCREASE AN INDUCTION MOTOR'S RPM.

Since you still have the hollow brass coupling available on the original system, why not make up a RANGE of "slugs" which would fit inside that brass tube, and experiment with a variety of OTHER materials -- from other metals, to plastics ... and even various powders ... mercury, sodium ... etc. -- in an effort to see what IS "conducted" into the motor from the coils/magnets ...?

WE CAN GET THE ACCELERATION EFFECT WITH A PLEXIGLASS ROTOR - AND A MOTOR THAT IS 21/2 FEET AWAY FROM THE COILS USING PVC PIPE AS WELL AS NON FEROMAGNETIC STAINLESS STEAL ROD. THAT IS SIMPLY ENOUGH FOR ME.

THE HOLLOW BRASS COUPLER IS NOW A MUSEUM PIECE.

Thane

@Oilbaron,
Per yr previous posts nd the video, the OU effect is caused by EM feedback down the motor shaft back intot he motor. But surely that can't be the case if it works with PVC etc. Sorry to be a bit slow but I don't get any more what the effect is. I'm mostly interested in the OU trnasformer actually becuase I think I can build on of those - the mechanical parts for the motor seem a bit challenging. But even so I'm intrigued by the motor but I don't get the concept of it any more..?
-Mike

[OilBarren]

INTERETING TIMELINE - AND MORE LIES AND FALSE INFORMATION FROM THE OTTAWA SKEPTICS

I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SKEPTICAL OF SKEPTICS - AND FOR GOOD REASON IT APPEARS.

1)
APRIL 21st, 2008
GENERATOR LOADING VIDEO ] (viewed 283 times)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7PBavkMGwI

2)
MAY 1st, 2008
SPLIT PHASE MOTOR GENERATOR LOADING TESTS (viewed 801 times.)



3)
MAY 4th, 2008
FULL SPEED GENERATOR LOADING TESTS (viewed 484 times.)

ATTACHMNET: Test Data May 4th, 2008 - Full Speed Test
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4047.0;attach=23208

4)
MAY 4th, 2008
OTTAWA SKEPTICS ARTICLE Written by Seanna Watson

"Most disturbing of all, however, is the fact that there has still been no measurement of the behaviour of the apparatus under physical load - Heins continues to extrapolate from the speed and acceleration characteristics."

Ottawa Skeptics
Written by Seanna Watson
Sunday, 04 May 2008 13:30
http://www.ottawaskeptics.org/local-investigations/121?task=view

5)
MAY 9th, 2008
OUmon
"Indeed it is, since such data seems to be completely absent."

BACK TO THE SKEPTICS...
"Commenting (on overunity.com) about the status of the student's work, Heins wrote (in all caps, as appears to be his custom on that forum):"

AS FOR THE STUDENTS - THEY ARE ON HOLIDAYS OR IN EXAMS.
I DID NOT INSIST THAT THEY HELP ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH THEIR SCHOOL WORK.

SO OBVIOUSLY THE OTTAWA SKEPTICS ARE FOLLOWING THIS THREAD - I AM CURIOUS TO KNOW WHY THET ARE LYING AND MISLEADING THEIR READERS AGAIN? - SINCE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT IN A LIE - RIGHT JONATHAN?

Jonathan Abrams <jonathan.abrams@ottawaskeptics.org> wrote:
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:43:04 -0500
From: "Jonathan Abrams" <jonathan.abrams@ottawaskeptics.org>
To: "Thane C. Heins" <thane_heins@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Ottawa U Demo

My apologies Mr. Heins, the errors have been addressed. I hope to see
you at Ottawa U at 10am today.
-Jonathan Abrams

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Thane C. Heins wrote:

Dear Ottawa Skeptics,

I have some concerns about the false information you posted on your website?
http://www.ottawaskeptics.org/news/56-local-news/86-local-inventor-demonstrates-qperpetual-motion-machineq-updated

Can you please show me where in the Toronto Star article I say, that, "I believe that I have created a perpetual motion machine?"

The TRUTH IS ? I never said this simply because it is not true.

As far as "details of the design not being available" - details of the design were posted on Dr. Habash's website and were uploaded onto youtube? How more detailed do you want?

"It will unfortunately be closed to the public, and to us". Please show me where this statement comes from? I remember saying, "If you would like to join us you are very welcome."

From the emails below you can clearly see that I have extended an open invitation to the Ottawa Skeptics who can't be trusted to publish truthful information.

I don't get it?
Thane

Jonathan Abrams wrote:
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:29:00 -0500
From: "Jonathan Abrams"
To: "Thane C. Heins"

Subject: Re: Ottawa U Demo

Friday would work well for us. Where and when should we meet you?

-Jonathan

On Feb 12, 2008 4:30 AM, Thane C. Heins wrote:

Dear Jonathan,

Actually Friday was set up day. I gave a couple of demos yesterday to the OverUnity Forum and Carleton University which went well. (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4047.135.html)

I will be giving another demo on Wednesday at 10 a.m. to OCETA, Ontario Centre for Environmental Technologies Advancement (www.oceta.on.ca/) . If you would like to join us you are very welcome.

I will also be in the lab on Friday running some tests with my two Ottawa University Engineering students - if that day works better for you.

Cheers
Thane

"Thane C. Heins" <thane_heins@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:45:10 -0500 (EST)
From: "Thane C. Heins" <thane_heins@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Snow Day
To: Jonathan Abrams <jonathan.abrams@ottawaskeptics.org>
CC: kcunningham@OCRI.ca

Dear Jonathan,

It is good to be skeptical ? but you also have to be responsible with what you print.
You must get your facts straight, at the very least your readers deserve that much.

The fact of the matter is Potential Difference Inc. has spent close to $50,000 to date on 3rd party evaluations ? geared towards providing present and future investors with some semblance of due diligence on our part because if we don?t do It ourselves no one else can.

Two weeks prior to our MIT trip we postponed a 15 million dollar investment offer until after we heard back from Dr. Zahn. The MIT trip cost us another 5 K with a budget of $20 K for Dr. Zahn?s report.

I am skeptical as well as is Dr. Habash and Dr. Bilaniuk  and I am only willing to speak about what can be observed and reproduced.

Dr. Habash and I have been invited to present at NASA and we are working towards that goal and I would never say anything which would compromise our corporate or scientific  integrity because too many people have placed their trust in me such as Dr. Habash and the U of O.

My claims are simple:
I claim that an externally applied magnetic field will accelerate an induction motor without the application of additional electric power.
This magnetic field can be a DC passive field from a permanent magnet or it can be an active AC magnetic field from a coil of wire. In the case of the AC field this can apply to either a solenoid or a generator coil under load which are in fact the same thing.

Both of these claims have been proven hundreds of times in many different labs.

I strongly urge you to go to the OverUnity Group's website and see what they are saying about what they observed ? I can assure you that if they were to print misinformation attached to my name I would cease to be associated with them instantly but they are cetrainly free to dismiss the technology if they wish.

I will be in the lab this Monday presenting to Christopher Ives, President of ERIA EcoSystems Inc. www.eria.info, if you would like to join us please do so at 10 a.m.

Cheers
Thane

Thane C. Heins
Co-Founder - Potential Difference Inc.
Perepiteia Generator Inventor

"Credibility can't be invented,
it has to be earned"
Tyler Hamilton - Toronto Star Columnist

"You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."
R. Buckminster Fuller

[OUman]

INTERETING TIMELINE - AND MORE LIES AND FALSE INFORMATION FROM THE OTTAWA SKEPTICS

I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SKEPTICAL OF SKEPTICS - AND FOR GOOD REASON IT APPEARS.

1)
APRIL 21st, 2008
GENERATOR LOADING VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7PBavkMGwI

2)
MAY 1st, 2008
SPLIT PHASE MOTOR GENERATOR LOADING TESTS (viewed 801 times.)



etc etc

Thane, the communication difficulty here is that you are using the word "loading" in a different way. When these folks (and me too) talk about demonstrating the machine under load, what they/we mean is a physical load into which you are supplying mechanical power. The purpose of that would be to show that the machine can actually supply mechanical power externally, and not simply consume all its power as heat in its own windings. Showing that you can bleed off a very small amount of electrical power to light a bulb still does not demonstrate mechanical power output.