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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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CRANKYpants

QuoteDiode shorting. See if the HV coil is shorted through a diode if it works at all, I mean a single diode so only half the waveform can exist, try diode both ways.   Very simple test.

WHAT IS AN LED - DUDE?

T

CRANKYpants

QuoteMake coils that have too few turns at the given speed to get the effect (push through to the motor) but do aetheric things to enhance them.

OR START THE SYSTEM w/ THE HV COILS SHORTED AND WATCH IT CONFORM TO LEZ'S LAW.

T

aether22

Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 09, 2008, 05:35:14 PM
WE HAVE SCOPE TESTING SLATED FOR TUESDAY IF ALL GOES WELL.

AS I HAVE POSTED PREVIOUSLY - MY FEELING IS THAT THE HC COILS STORE ENERGY IN THE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD (LIKE AN INDUCTOR) AND THE HV COILS STORE ENERGY IN THE ELECTROSTATIC FIELD (LIKE A CAPACITOR)
Um, don't want to burst your bubble or come off like the thought police but seriously a shorted HV coil has little capacitance to any current induced in it's turns, you can believe that if you want but I know it's not possible.
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WHEN THE MAGNET APPROACHES THE HV COIL VOLTAGE IS INDUCED AND THE CURRENT IS KEPT LOW DUE TO THE THE COIL'S HIGH IMPEDANCE. AS THE VOLTAGE IN THE COIL GROWS THE ELECTROSTATIC CHARGE INCREASES AS WELL.
I'm a frayed knot.
If you were injecting energy into a HV coil from the outside then yes, it would stop the current and a voltage gradient would form (not that that would solve anything), but as each turn is equally induced by the rotors EMF and it's own counter EMF each turn is in the same (metaphorical) boat, each turn gets pretty much the same EMF encouraging current flow and the same back EMF discouraging it, all are equal and as such there is barely a hair of any HV field near the thing, voltage difference only arrives with an actual difference, one difference is in the end of the coil are not shorted but are open or have a load, then a voltage will be generated, but in short circuit there is no potential difference (ironically, you know with the name and all).
If every inch of wire is pretty much homogeneous, generating, resisting, inducting all the same then there is no voltage, no unbalanced charges no electric fields.
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WHEN THE COIL MOVES AWAY THE SHORTED "CAPACITOR"/COIL DISCHARGES THROUGH THE COIL AND PUSHES THE RECEDING MAGNET AWAY WITH ADDITIONAL FORCE.

THAT'S MY THEORY AND I AM STICKING WITH IT FOR NOW.
Actually I suggest that you do, but if you do that oscilloscope test the right way you will find out otherwise.
But it is probably rather helpful to think that you understand it, keeps the hands busy and the mind quiet.

More speriments!
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

CRANKYpants

QuoteCopy Thane, Make a prony brake.  Thane, did you not manage to get it working?

NO - SORRY I SPENT THE WEEKEND PREPARING FOR AN INVESTOR DEMO TODAY.

IF I WERE TO DO IT I WOULD MOUNT THE SCALE (WITH A LEVER ATTACHED) ON A PLATE THAT CAN BE RAISED VIA A THREADED BOLT FROM BELOW.

LEVER_____________O ------------ ROTOR DRIVE SHAFT   
SCALE                 
PLATE
/
/  THREADED BOLT
/
/
/
BASE


AS YOU RAISE THE SCALE THE LEVER PUTS PRESSURE ON THE DRIVE SHAFT WHICH IS REGISTERED ON THE METER.

aether22

Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 09, 2008, 06:35:19 PM
WHAT IS AN LED - DUDE?

T

Did you have it half wave though? I figured you had an LED each way so that both current directions were conducted, sure seemed that way unless you had 4 individual HV coils.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes