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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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hoptoad

Quote from: aether22 on June 11, 2008, 11:40:39 PM
I guess one way to know it's the real thing is if it 'appears' suddenly.

???    Like Casper the friendly ghost perhaps  ???

Quote from: aether22
.... maybe the multistrand wire really is a valid discovery.

Hmmmm, it could be !? ... KneeDeep

aether22

Well I went out and got a few things I need including some switches so I can do my multitap coil test, even though I can barely get any coil on that core to give acceleration at least I have the difference between deceleration .vs no change.  If I can get no change by shorting every tap point that could be interesting. (still it could possibly be explained by my 'shorting creates less lenz effect than a load' argument)

I am more than a little concerned that except for the most crappy acceleration with the split core (when put all too close to the Neo's) I have not had acceleration with a quality core. (meaning a laminated closed magnetic circuit, anything else has losses that WILL be reduced by shorting which may reduce the total loading)

The first MOT only worked once I added steel pole pieces to it so it would intrude further into the rotor Thane sent, and those solid steel pieces have remained since in all their lossy brilliance.
And unlike Thane (who no longer believes in isolation) I have not been able to create isolation as a way to 'bust' core loss possibilities. (though I have nothing stopping me from trying isolation, but it seems like a poor choice when I don't have any effect I feel confident isn't just conventional)

After running a few more tests on the origonal MOT stator I might knock the steel pieces off to see how much that was effecting the results, I can't help but wonder if Thane's 'back iron' was really a way to add some low quality steel that would be susceptible to eddy currents and hysteresis. (at the same time I would not rule out the possibility that the aether is enhanced by these losses)

So while the results (not mine but overall) prove that there IS far more to all of this than just the reduction of losses from hysteresis and eddy currents and unbalanced magnetic forces etc...  the results also indicate that at least sometimes they may be the culprit in part or entirely (or I would need to assume such a possibility currently since I have HV and HC coils working on solid cores and no coils working on the only high quality closed circuit core), either that or HCC's from microwaves are just fine for generation of the effect? (at least they cause just fine acceleration on my setup now even if that wasn't previously the case)

BTW I tried the multistrand over the new MOT and on shorting it I got 7.5A and deceleration, maybe that is an indication the wire idea is not compatible with this effect, but then again neither is the microwave HV coil or my multi-tap so all in all I don't think I can make any judgment on it based off these results.

I do have experiments I want to try and I will likely do so, but I am also right back to possibly trying to get the effect to work for real, for sure.

One piece of good news is that I can now take photos of the device easily and short videos far more easily than would have been the case, only catch is that now there isn't much worth seeing seemingly, will have to work on that.

Damn, Thanes gonna double my bill for all this downer talk!

Thane, I would be interested in replicating the split phase tests you did, they are totally bulletproof but currently all I have on the tests is the table with the results, I do not even know what 'split phase' means.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

aether22

Quote from: hoptoad on June 12, 2008, 12:29:36 AM
When connected together in series however, the total coil/core inductance (and hence inductive reactance) demonstrated the effect, albeit at reasonably high rpm (frequency).

What kind of RPM are you talking about?
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

CRANKYpants

QuoteHey, I tried, but Thane said it was crazy talk! Now he's talking crazy.

WELL WHEN COILS SEEM TO WORK BETTER AND BETTER "WITH AGE" THEN THAT IS JUST CRAZY - I THINK.

T

aether22

Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 12, 2008, 06:11:12 AM
WELL WHEN COILS SEEM TO WORK BETTER AND BETTER "WITH AGE" THEN THAT IS JUST CRAZY - I THINK.

T

And yet you notice it happen, there really is no hope of any 'conventional' answer to such a result, but materials becoming patterned, conditioned, charged aetherically is well evidenced.  but again can't be explained by conventional physics.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes