Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[i_ron]

I DID THIS TEST QUITE A WHILE AGO DUE TO PROMPTING FROM A22...

DECELERATION 2000 - 470 RPM (BELOW 470 HC AND HV COILS BOTH COILS ACT AS BRAKES)

COIL ENGAGED          TIME
HC COILS ONLY            13 seconds
HC COILS & HV COILS   32 sesonds
HV COILS ONLY             42 seconds
NO COILS                       52 seconds
NO CORES                     158 seconds
If someone else could redo these tests it would be great - I may have got these numbers inverted?

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THANE

One of my problems is that I have no Tachometer, so it becomes very problematic for me to
attempt to verify these numbers. You may have noted my previous posts are all stated as
'full speed' tests, for this very reason.

But from my limited exposure to the Ryobi powered six magnet rotor, I would say that these
numbers are believable, in the park anyway. I have no quibble with them.

Ron

PS: please let me know if I have to buy a laser tach to stay in the club... oar if I can just coast?

[aether22]

I AM READY TO CONSIDER THAT A ROTATING MAGNETIC FIELD PRODUCES A MAGNETIC VORTEX (LIKE WATER OR AIR ETC) AND THAT AN  EXTERNALLY APPLIED MAGNETIC FIELD (HV COIL) AT THE CORRECT MAGNITUDE / ANGLE / PHASE / PULSE FREQUENCY CAN INCREASE THE SPEED OF THE VORTEX WHICH IN TURN INCREASES THE SPEED OF THE ROTOR.

Almost sounds like an aether theory, only you said magnetic, but wtf is a magnetic vortex?

ALSO IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO IGNORE INFORMATION WHILE WISHING TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY -
FOR MY POSTS TO BE VALID THEY OUGHT TO BE VALIDATED BY SOMEONE ELSE - THAT IS WHY I POST THEM HERE.

IT IS SIMPLY NOT SCIENTIFIC NOR DISCIPLINED TO IGNORE ANY INFORMATION WHEN HIGHLIGHTED AS I HAVE DONE

Not sure what you mean, do you mean "as I have done" to indicate that you have ignored info? or are you saying that you have highlighted and someone else has ignored info, and if so do you mean me? If you do I don't know what I have ignored.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING POSTED HERE (AND NOR SHOULD ANYONE ELSE) UNTIL I SEE IT FOR MYSELF AND OFTEN NOT EVEN THEN UNTIL I HAVE REPEATED IT 100 TIMES OR MORE.

SO I_RONARRYTHER22 - IF MY POST IS RELEVANT PLEASE REPEAT.

THANKS
T

PS HOW WAS INDY?

Good although there was a plasticish feel to much of it.
It wasn't as good as the past ones though.

BTW I may end up taking Monday off kinda too, I didn't get a chance to tidy the garage/lab/workshop and I had an idea for an easy to put together project, one that is very 'dear' to me. (a really effective way of creating a rotating electrical output, so a circle of coils can create a rotating field which can if used correctly create a solid state device that rotates the aether)

[OUmon]

... THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS TO US IS - DOES THE GENERATOR PRODUCE MORE POWER WITH THE HV COIL INCLUSION THAN WITHOUT? - AND DOES IS THE COST INCREASE JUSTIFY THE POWER GAIN

ANSWER = YES - YES

I think that the questions are not properly formulated and so they will not satisfy the investors' "pitbulls" as you call them. The two questions should instead be:

1. Does the system deliver a greater overall efficiency with the HV inclusion than without?

2. Is this increase in efficiency greater than the loss of efficiency incurred by the attachment of the device to the system in the first place?

I think you have evidence to answer "yes" to the first question but all the evidence posted to date says that the answer to the second question is "no".

And your tongue-in-cheek reference to the highly inefficient prime mover does not make this issue go away because you can do experiments to explore both those questions whatever the efficiency of the prime mover is.

I'm not making these points to needle you - I'm making them because you've asked people on this forum to help you wring out the proposition so that it's convincing to prospective investors.

[CRANKYpants]

I'm not making these points to needle you - I'm making them because you've asked people on this forum to help you wring out the proposition so that it's convincing to prospective investors.

IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY PROVEN YOURSELF TO BE A LYING SCUMBAG MORE THAN ONCE ON THIS THREAD - I WOULD ALMOST AGREE AND ALMOST RESPECT YOU - BUT ALAS YOU ARE A LYING SCUMBAG.

ON FRIDAY I PUT THE HV COILS ON TOP OF THE HC COILS SO THAT THEY DO NOT REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL CORE LOSS CAUSING CORE AREA - JUST SOME ADDITIONAL COPPER WIRE TO PROVIDE LENZ FREE OPERATION.

ALL LYING SCUMBAGS WOULD WANT TO IGNORE THIS FACT.

Thane

PS
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK I_RID FOR POINTING THIS OUT - ALTHOUGH I DON'T AGREE THAT IT IS OCCURING HERE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaf9v0K-rZw - THE ADDITIONAL CORE AREA (AND LOSSES) REQUIRED BY THE HV COILS IS LESS THAN THE POWER GAIN - BUT EVEN SO PLACING THE HV COILS ON TOP IS AN EVEN BETTER SOLUTION.

[OUmon]

... I WOULD ALMOST AGREE AND ALMOST RESPECT YOU - BUT ALAS YOU ARE A LYING SCUMBAG...

You seem to be somewhat ambivalent about my suggestion! I think you may find, when the "pitbulls" ask the same questions, it will not be very productive to call them "lying scumbags" - you may be well advised to develop a more scientifically based response. It's also worth considering that they'll be reading this thread too and forming opinions from that.