Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[Gobaga]

I see this hread is as hard to follow as ever. 

4. Since you are so damn smart, why don't you answer this simple question for Thane:

If as Thane claims, the toroid works OU by increasing the capacitance of the coil, then where did the free energy come from that filled up that capacitance he created.

What if you open the HV coil and place a cap across it?  What then? 

[Gobaga]

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Meaning, speaking from my research, Tesla demonstrated that by using a shorted low resistance, high inductance winding, (choke) and driving it till its impedance property is fully manifested, conditions are established within the coil which make it possible for the establishing of an electric stress field, which after the threshold is reached, completely replaces the magnetic field.   This is what I really believe is happening.  An electric field will displace an approaching magnetic field.  At this point, we have officially begun utilizing what could be termed “Cold Current” and or displacement current, depending on who you choose to believe.  Owing to the closed loop, the potential is allowed to reach levels which are impossible to achieve in a coil which isn’t closed on itself. Potential in this use of the term relates to the size and strength of the electric field which is produced, and not to the voltage.   
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"Cold current" becomes "diffferent" when it encounters ferromagnetic materials.  It becomes a different kind of current.  So, "something" "enhances" the magnetic field rather than replaces it.

[CRANKYpants]

I see this hread is as hard to follow as ever. 

YES PROBABLY BETTER TO FORGET IT AND START A NEW ONE, I HAVE CHANGED MY OPINION ON HAVING MODERATOR PRIVILEGES.

What if you open the HV coil and place a cap across it?  What then? 

WHY INCREASE THE EXPENSE, COMPLEXITY AND REDUCE THE DURABILITY BY ADDING SOMETHING NOT REQUIRED? 

CHEERS
T

[Gobaga]

YES PROBABLY BETTER TO FORGET IT AND START A NEW ONE, I HAVE CHANGED MY OPINION ON HAVING MODERATOR PRIVILEGES.

What if you open the HV coil and place a cap across it?  What then? 

WHY INCREASE THE EXPENSE, COMPLEXITY AND REDUCE THE DURABILITY BY ADDING SOMETHING NOT REQUIRED? 

CHEERS
T

So, you tried adding a cap across the HV coil and it didn't work or just didn't help?

Just trying to get my brain around this thing.

Thanks

[CRANKYpants]

So, you tried adding a cap across the HV coil and it didn't work or just didn't help?
Just trying to get my brain around this thing.

Thanks

I HAVE TRIED MANY THINGS AND AT ONE POINT WE FELT THAT WE COULD COLLECT THE HV COIL'S INDUCED VOLTAGE INTO A CAPACITOR - IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IT CAUSED DECELERATION - IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE WRONG SIZED CAP. I ADMIT I WAS NOT ALL THAT CURIOUS ANYWAY SINCE I AM ALL ABOUT MAKING IT A SIMPLE AND DURABLE AND COST EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE.

SOME DAY WHEN OU DEVICES ARE AS WELL KNOWN AND VARIED AS KLENEX - THE WINNING FORMULA WILL BE: CHEAP + DURABLE + EASE OF MANUFACTURE + EASE OF MAINTENANCE. WHAT COULD BE EASIER THAN COILS OF WIRE WHICH WILL FUNCTION FOR 100 YEARS IF TREATED WELL?

CHEERS
T