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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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kjkent1

Quote from: polarbreeze on March 02, 2008, 11:30:42 AM
The LEDs (or a lightbulb) don't prove anything whatsoever. They're internal to the system. What you need to prove is that when the peripeteia is activated, the system delivers more power to an EXTERNAL load for the same amount of power going INTO the entire system. It would be a very clear demonstration to set up and it would prove the issue once and for all. It's such a very simple, objective and direct experiment. Why would you not do that?
Mr. Heins' experiment should be simple to reproduce. I seriously doubt that researchers at General Electric Shell Oil, or some other large corporation with a vested interest in energy resources has not done the necessary experimenting already.

If the device were to actually improve engine efficiency to ~100% or greater, then crude oil (as well as other energy resource prices) would fall from over $100 per barrel to near zero almost instantaneously, and there would be a world wide economic collapse, due to the change in underlying value of most natural resources.

With that sort of money and power at stake, were I in the inventor's shoes, I would be asking the Canadian government to provide me with a security force equipped with a nuclear deterrant capability. ;D

johnnyl

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johnnyl

As of 2002, there are over 590 million passenger vehicles in use which are utilizing combustion engines.  There are also millions of other combustion engines being utilized in places other than passenger vehicles.  If a new technology emerges which will clearly replace combustion engines, the price of oil will not collapse.

It will take some number of decades to replace the existing hundreds of millions of combustion engines currently in use and for that period of time oil, and it's derivatives, will still be in demand (and always will be to some extent).  Thus the price of oil will be supported and will not go into freefall.  In this instance, oil would probably see a slow decline in price as demand decreases, but this may not even be so given that the capacity to produce oil is changing as the planet follows the peak oil production curve.

ramset

Kent1 you are definately not preaching to the choir overhere   [thane you go boy] Chet
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polarbreeze

Quote from: LarryC on March 02, 2008, 11:58:34 AM
Quote from: polarbreeze on March 02, 2008, 11:30:42 AM
The LEDs (or a lightbulb) don't prove anything whatsoever. They're internal to the system. What you need to prove is that when the peripeteia is activated, the system delivers more power to an EXTERNAL load for the same amount of power going INTO the entire system. It would be a very clear demonstration to set up and it would prove the issue once and for all. It's such a very simple, objective and direct experiment. Why would you not do that?

My testing of the Bi-Toroid generator design has proved Thane's theory that a decoupled primary uses the same wattage with an open secondary or a loaded secondary. See reply 566, generator test 4 and 5.

Regards,
Larry

Larry, I read that carefully and it does not provide the clear, direct evidence that I was talking about. The setup needs to measure power input (which yours does) and also to measure power output to an independent external mechanical load (which yours does not). Then it would be a simple matter to demonstrate whether the efficiency (power out vs power in) of the system changes or not when the peripeteia is activated. It's a very simple, direct and clear experiment but nobody seems to have done it. Wonder why?Your open vs loaded secondary doesn't do it because it's not an independent external mechanical load.