Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[aether22]

Again I know this sounds far out to many (and probably Thane included?) and I sure didn't believe in any such stuff initially and really hated the concept of aether or other airy fairy sounding mysterious mumbo jumb, but the evidence is overwhelming, it would be like denying electricity existed.

YES AETHER22, BUT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR NICKNAME TO CONVENTIONALELECTRICITYWISDON22 or FARADAY'SLAW22,  KIRCHOFF'SCURRENTLAW22 or SOMETHING EQUALLY BORING.

Thane

Ah, so you get it

[OilBarren]

Again I know this sounds far out to many (and probably Thane included?) and I sure didn't believe in any such stuff initially and really hated the concept of aether or other airy fairy sounding mysterious mumbo jumb, but the evidence is overwhelming, it would be like denying electricity existed.

YES AETHER22, BUT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR NICKNAME TO CONVENTIONALELECTRICITYWISDON22 or FARADAY'SLAW22,  KIRCHOFF'SCURRENTLAW22 or SOMETHING EQUALLY BORING.

Thane

Ah, so you get it

YES I DO GET IT, AND FROM NOW ON YOU WILL BE FOREVER KNOWN AS:

AIRYFAIRY22

SORRY DUDE BUT YOU BROUGHT THIS UPON YOURSELF...

Thane

[innovation_station]

i here some more talk of the hidden batteries....

have we all discovered what they are yet lol

i am sure they are used in this unit...........

THANE i bet you have played with resistors and diodes in similar setups eh?

ist

[polarbreeze]

Um, No.

Trying to prove there is more out than in would be the waste of time.
Any such measurements will be easily disputed (and always is in such cases) ...

That's not what I said at all. Of course such a claim would be disputed - getting more power out than you put it breaks the energy conservation law. It would be extremely stupid for anyone to claim that. Extremely stupid. But if this thing does anything at all, it will reduce losses and therefore increase the efficiency of the system. That is the experiment I am proposing. It is a very simple, straightforward and transparent experiment to do and the reluctance of those involved to do that experiment suggests to me that they already know it would fail. But I'd be very, very happy for someone to prove me wrong.

[polarbreeze]

Thane - I recognize that you can gett a significant increase in voltage, but what we are all looking for is an increase in "useful energy"... Using a mechanical measure for the power output will allow you to easily distill all the variables into a simple yes/no factor of the two fundamental questions 1) "Is this more efficient at doing useful work?" and 2) "Is there sufficient useful output to 'close the loop'"...

Well said, jacksatan - let's get an objective measure of this so we can all see what it's about.