Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[tinu]

You're wasting your time connecting lights to the coils. That doesn't prove anything at all. What you need to be doing is measuring the power in and the power out. If you can show that this technology increases the power out for a given power in, then you're off to the races. But until you do that, it's just snake oil.

Um, No.
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What has been done is to show that there is a stunning and novel anomaly which no one can honestly account for...

Ummmm   

More stunning than novel! 
It?s stunning indeed to turn a fine motor into a 275W heater.
Then, voila, the beauty of novelty reveals in resurrecting the same motor after it was killed in the first place.
Lol!

@ all,
Take a transformer (any kind) and place a magnet on it. Got it heating already? Place a shielding coil in between magnet and core and the transformer will (partially) resurrect. Voila! Very educative in B-H loops, hysteresis loses and saturation. In addition, any transformer will work in opposition to motors, which may have a stubborn personality. And, as a matter of fact, although it?s still way too expensive for a heater, at least it?s stationary. 

Cheers,
Tinu

[Steven Dufresne]

Ive been trying to replicate your motor experiment but am not having much luck with the results.  I'm using a 1/25 hp induction motor from an walkin cooler evaporator fan.  I've made the steel rotor about 6.5" dia. with fairly strong ceramic 3/4" dia. magnets at 45 degree spacing and ( 8 magnets)were used.  I'm also  using 6 pickup coils that are factory wound 12volt coils, 1.7 ohms resistance each.  When I start the motor with no load and no coils it is drawing 2.7 amps @110 volts  When I introduce the 6 coils into the system and short them out it still draws 2.7 amps and does not accelerate at all.  The coils are putting out 3.2 volts AC each and will light up small 12 volt bulbs as can be seen in my photo.
My unit is quite flexable and can be configured for different coils fairly easily. What am I doing wrong or are these results OK with these small coils??

DOES YOUR SYSTEM DECELERATE UNDER GENERATOR LOAD CONDITIONS?
IF IT DOES NOT DECELERATE - YOUR MOTOR IS TOO POWERFUL OR YOUR COILS ARE TOO WEAK.

Thane,
Isn't there also the possibility that since it doesn't decelerate under generator load conditions, it is producing the effect? i.e. You'd expect it to decelerate but the back EMF flux is feeding back into the motor and helping keep the speed up. I can understand your possibilities too, but I'm just wondering if there might be this third possibility.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

[aether22]

Um, No.

Trying to prove there is more out than in would be the waste of time.
Any such measurements will be easily disputed (and always is in such cases) ...

That's not what I said at all. Of course such a claim would be disputed - getting more power out than you put it breaks the energy conservation law. It would be extremely stupid for anyone to claim that. Extremely stupid. But if this thing does anything at all, it will reduce losses and therefore increase the efficiency of the system. That is the experiment I am proposing. It is a very simple, straightforward and transparent experiment to do and the reluctance of those involved to do that experiment suggests to me that they already know it would fail. But I'd be very, very happy for someone to prove me wrong.

Um, I think the reason no such test has been done (other than the fact that the test has been done and it's in vid 1&2) is that no one questions for a moment that the losses of the system aren't being reduced, there is seriously less energy going into the motor while it produces much more torque, now please tell me, how is that not efficiency increasing?  The only question is if it is becoming OU or if the losses in the system, heating caused by hysteresis and possibly eddy currents etc. are being vanquished for more efficient and powerful operation, I hope for the former but fear it might be all the latter. (in either case the effect is mysterious and I have no doubt it is the aether causing the effect)

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Tinu, what you can't answer is this.
Why does placing a tiny piece of steel connecting the motor and generator seriously increase the torque and speed while decreasing the energy into the motor, turning a lenz law (demonstrated in the first piece) loss into the reverse.

The effect with the transformer has no comparison at all, what is happening here is the opposite, a magnetic field (sometimes vanishingly tiny) is being added and heating and losses go down not up.

If however the magnetic field wasn't vanishingly tiny I'd say the effect is interesting but conventional, explainable. But it is vanishingly tiny.

Also the inefficiency with which the motor is run slightly dramatizes the effect, but it works with universal and DC motors working in a much more healthy mode so your heater comment bears no water.

[polarbreeze]

...the test has been done and it's in vid 1&2...

No, the tests in vid 1 and 2 do NOT measure external efficiency, which is why they have no value in determining whether or not this device actually works. All this talk about current and speed and acceleration and torque etc is meaningless because individually these things don't mean a thing. The issue is whether there is any direct evidence - even the slightest piece of evidence, that this device improves system efficiency. Why do you resist the idea that such a basic and simple test should be performed?

[aether22]

...the test has been done and it's in vid 1&2...

No, the tests in vid 1 and 2 do NOT measure external efficiency, which is why they have no value in determining whether or not this device actually works. All this talk about current and speed and acceleration and torque etc is meaningless because individually these things don't mean a thing. The issue is whether there is any direct evidence - even the slightest piece of evidence, that this device improves system efficiency. Why do you resist the idea that such a basic and simple test should be performed?

First I'd say that what vid 1&2 shows is amazing regardless, it shows a change that should do nothing but has a dramatic effect on the current drawn (energy in), the speed of rotation, the voltage therefore produced, torque, current output.

But now to be useful to you it needs to fit into whatever you mean by 'External efficiency' so please do explain what you mean by this if it's not covered by input power taking a dive as generator losses (outputs), inductive and magnetic increase (as shown in the first vid and hence almost surely present in the 2nd unless the motor dramatically reduces losses in the generator also).

In all seriousness you simply don't want to find that this thing works, you are grasping at straws.