Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[RunningBare]

Hey guys and girls,

He has a demonstration at the Ottawa University Monday next week which he invited me and another member from this forum to attend.


Luc

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H7KrlDZ5Hkw

Just a little light entertainment 

[gotoluc]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H7KrlDZ5Hkw

Just a little light entertainment 

Excellent choice RunningBare I love this group.

Here is another good one that speak of the changes to come: http://www.mp3tube.net/musics/Mamas-and-the-Papas-Age-of-Aquarius/16501/

Stay tuned for more.

Luc

[canam101]

Interesting blog by Tyler Hamilton the reporter

http://tyler.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2008/2/4/3505063.html

and one of the comments

If Mr. Heins wants to get publicity for his motor along with all the FREE third-party verification he could ask for ($5000 to Zahn to watch a demo?!?!), all he has to do is hook up the output back to the input so that the device is self-sustaining.

That is what anybody would do asap after realizing that he had something so unusual; yet, like all the inventors of these wonderful devices, all Mr Heins does is come up with ambiguous videos.

Just based on such amazing behavior, I would guess that there is nothing unusual in what Heins has, and that consciously or unconsciously, he knows it.

[Groundloop]

@canam101,

Also read the two posts done by the inventor:

SNIP
Re: Harnessing Back EMF to create "free" energy?
by Thane Heins on Wed 06 Feb 2008 05:45 AM EST  |  Permanent Link
Dear Tyler,

Isn't it interesting that you ask a QUESTION, "did Thane
Heins invent....blah, blah" And virtually everyone reads it
as a statement of fact (everyone so far I've seen so far at least)
when in fact your article went to great lengths to conclude that
the QUESTION is still UNANSWERED.

How can we humans anything new if we don't start with and aren't afraid
to ask "WHAT IF"? I would suggest all your bloggers read this interesting
article: http://www.lightshift.com/Inspiration/monkey.html

Our MIT financial budget to have the question answered
is $20,000.00 USD. Our trip to Cambridge alone cost 5
grand. I can assure you that Dr. Zahn would not agree to
take our money and waste one second of his valuable time if the design
was obviously flawed in any way. BTW he is NOT stumped but pleasantly
surprised and interested. Our main goal is to have a third party evaluation performed
to provide due diligence for any future investors to protect their money,
maintain our corporate integrity and serve science and humanity in the process.

As far as putting the demo in a public place it already is (on the internet)
and anyone who wants a demo can come to Ottawa U and get one
ANYTIME. In fact we have 2 business people coming next week from
Toronto who may end up being strategic partners and the Ottawa Skeptic
Society is coming on Monday.

Finally to clarify another point - the motor power goes DOWN as the system
speed increases while simultaneously the generator output goes UP. This
what we have observed and can demonstrate and claim.

Is this phenomenon perpetual motion or perpetual nonsense - only time
and effort and tell along with a willingness to try and ask the difficult
questions (in the face of adversity) while those who don't continue eating dirt.

The man who says it cannot be done - should not interfere with the one doing it.
Chinese Proverb

Cheers
Than

Re: Harnessing Back EMF to create "free" energy?
by Thane Heins on Thu 07 Feb 2008 05:56 AM EST  |  Permanent Link
Dear Stephen B,
Yes and in part 5 I think; I briefly show the input power when coil 2 is producing about 220 no load volts while the other coils are shorted AND DRIVING the motor - then I use ONLY the motor to accelerate the system up to 220 no load volts on coil 2 and the motor is drawing more than 50 more watts of power than in the first case.

I know the demo is very boring for most people so it is not as technical as it ought to be. Here is an explanation I gave to someone else yesterday (who wanted to know about a mechanical rather than electrical load) which might be useful to you as well.

The prototype uses an induction motor as the prime mover. The speed increase is due to the
magnetic coupling of the generator Back EMF - MMF's to the induction motor's rotor. Without
this it would operate as a conventional generator prime mover scenario and decelerate under
electrical load.

When an induction motor accelerates - the slip angle between the stator and rotor decreases.
The slip angle dictates how much current will be drawn by the stator coil.
Maximum slip angle at startup RPM = 0 = maximum motor current.
Minimum slip angle at full speed = max RPM = minimum motor current.

The induction motor's current draw is in direct proportion to the RPM of the rotor. As the
motor speeds up the slip angle decreases and the motor draws less and less current. If you talk about one you are also talking about the other.

Shorting out a CONVENTIONAL generator = maximum electrical load = maximum RESISTIVE magnetic load = maximum counter torque = maximum deceleration.

Shorting out a MAGNETICALLY COUPLED generator = maximum electrical load = maximum ASSISTIVE magnetic load = maximum complimentary torque = maximum acceleration.

The point is, for physics a load - be it mechanical or electrical is NOT supposed to cause
acceleration.

In this case a mechanical brake would produce deceleration because a brake does not produce a
magnetic field like a salient pole coil of wire does which is the "not so secret recipe" for success
here.

Concerning your wind turbine question, look at Part 4 of the Demo which uses the Toroid Coil configuration - this was specifically designed for wind generators to reduce and ultimately eliminate "motor action" inside the generator.

I hope this helps for now.

Cheers
Thane

Thane C. Heins
Co-Founder - Potential Difference Inc.
Perepiteia Generator Inventor

"Credibility can't be invented, it has to be earned"
Tyler Hamilton - Toronto Star Columnist

"You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."
R. Buckminster Fuller

END SNIP

What Thane Heins is claiming:

"Finally to clarify another point - the motor power goes DOWN as the system
speed increases while simultaneously the generator output goes UP. This
what we have observed and can demonstrate and claim."

Groundloop.

[Steven Dufresne]

@canam101,

Also read the two posts done by the inventor:


Re: Harnessing Back EMF to create "free" energy?
by Thane Heins on Wed 06 Feb 2008 05:45 AM EST  |  Permanent Link
<snip>
As far as putting the demo in a public place it already is (on the internet)
and anyone who wants a demo can come to Ottawa U and get one
ANYTIME. In fact we have 2 business people coming next week from
Toronto who may end up being strategic partners and the Ottawa Skeptic
Society is coming on Monday.
<snip>
</color>

Uh oh. Sounds like Monday might to be a big show with all those people.
And with a group of skeptics, it may not be all that productive. I guess
we'll see. I was hoping for enough information to be able to decide if it's
worth replicating (power in vs power out with the toroid configuration) and
then information on materials (there are sufficient other construction
details in the videos.)
-Steve
http://rimstar.org