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Overunity Machines Forum



Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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OUman

Quote from: i_ron on June 03, 2008, 11:00:36 AM
I did not post these numbers to argue about. I clearly stated they were RAW numbers... merely to
indicate a TREND

The Brown Devil is wire wound resistor and if you consider six magnet stations at the stated 3600
RPM then one should consider the impedence of this component, yet you, without any evidence
to the contrary, have stated a 20% error in my numbers. That is bullshit.

Ron


Sorry, Ron, nothing personal was intended. But that combination of measurements (1200 ohms - 197 volts - 0.14 amps) deviates from Ohm's Law by about 20%. So either there's an error in the measurements or else the load is not purely resistive. That's what I said and it's not bullshit, sorry.

aether22

True but really it doesn't matter, the HV coil DOES produce real energy and it's OU as I had expected making it the best choice for an OU design where the HC coil would be assumed not to be.

But my thought is that at this point someone needs to rewire a 'normal' generator (or motor used as one) to Thanes HV specs because that would be far more efficient than what everyone is doing so far.

Sure the losses in the stators have been reduced but the losses on the rotor have not been looked at.

The first intermediate test that could be tried would be to add DC energized coils to the rotor and remove the neo's to ensure the effect still works, though I am not sure anyone has a rotor suited to such a test yet.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

OUman

Quote from: aether22 on June 03, 2008, 05:12:52 PM
...the HV coil DOES produce real energy and it's OU...

I don't understand at all how you can draw that conclusion from the reported results. There's 200+ watts of power going into this thing and so far the max that's been extracted is 27 watts. Doesn't sound very OU to me. What's your definition of OU?

aether22

I'm bored, so what the hell.

It is OU relative to the loading increase on the motor.
And if you count the losses that were occurring unless you can show that they somehow were reduced by loading the coil then it means the machine has gone OU overall in heat, sound and mechanical vibration etc output.

But I did say 'kinda OU' previously.

Basically what the experiments seem to indicate is that if you added more coils, and reduced various losses in the system it could be made OU, possibly in conjunction with some shorted HV coils for pure acceleration. (and a few watts of heating, which seems attractive about now)

Of course you knew precisely what I meant, but I have some time to kill so it's good to keep focused on the subject.

You make a good point though, the system isn't doing too well putting 200+ watts into friction, moving air around, heating, and noise in an unloaded state.
Since Thane has shown it can be faster with coils shorted than with coils away from the rotor then it is clear it isn't losses inherent with the generator and hence they could and need to be cleaned up to make it OU. (although with the 'Brutal' acceleration Thane noted if multiplied a bit then maybe 'need' is too strong a word)

There should be some effort into running a generator rotor (with stators absent) with just a few watts not pretty close to 200w as it currently is.   If that is done making it OU could be very easy!
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

CRANKYpants

LARRY COME QUICK !!!!
A22 IS DRINKING OU KOOLAID !!!
AND ITS INDUCING VOMITTING IN ME !!!!