Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[aether22]

When I do come back on Monday (and this is not a good start to staying away) I will focus on experiments that are:

Impossible amplifier (something that increases the effect that has no conventional explanation)
Impossible reducer (something that decreases or eliminates but has no conventional explanation)
Measurement of effect at motor.
Delivery of effect into surrogate device. (another motor for instance)

I think my confusion was in part loosing sight of these goals.

[nul-points]

Larry, aether22

...just to clarify about my reference above to Aspden...

i think Larry has seen the decreased-energy motor-restart anomaly called the 'Aspden effect' in his tests

the reference & link i've given above is actually something separate, as i believe a22 suspected, and is dealing with anomalous energy lumped under 'eddy losses'  - the additional energy being of the order of 200% - 1000% above that predicted, depending largely on operating frequency (low 10s of Hz)

Aspden's take on the anomaly is that there is regenerative activity going on in the 'core between heat and electrical energies

i wondered if the presence & behaviour of this anomaly might support the suggestions Mr E was making above relating to eddy-loss

all the best
sandy
Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

[i_ron]

Good you like it.
where did _you_ start with his project...  you started building from the video's?
(seen the drawings in this forum, didn't need to ask it... but maybe someone could point me out without thinking to the right page out of 70)
snip

The joke was only a joke if you are some sort of PB incarnation, the identification to PB was
because of the near identical questions, K?

I started with the Garry Stanley anti lenz coil way back when. I have since built many generators so
have a pretty good feel for what a generator does. Much of the Thane effect can be attributed to the
hysteresis brake effect but there are just enough anomalies to be of special interest, the old, "but
what if he is right" trip.

So to do the experiment we are not concerned with efficiencies. What is of interest is the behaviour
of the coil as built by Thane. You need some sort of induction motor, a rotor and magnets and a
coil.

The motor can be a small bench grinder, or any capacitor run induction motor, not necessarily a
separate centrifugal switch start motor but with the caveat that induction motors are inherently
unstable below the breakdown torque point which is around 70% of the rated RPM, see attached...

So a 1720 RPM motor would be quite suitable if your rotor is not of bullet proof construction.

The core can be just about anything, but what has been used extensively is the laminations from
old microwave ovens, even using the existing coil. However the core is a bit on the large size and
could be cut in half height wise. This means a rewind of the coil, which I have not as yet done.

It helps if you have some mechanical skills and a modest work shop, but the journey of a thousand
miles starts with the first step. If you have done some experiments then it gets easier each time.

It is a personal learning experience!!! You can not get your total learning from a book, To remain
grounded one MUST do the hands on stuff. Who cares whether Thane's theory is real or pie in the
sky?  It exercises the old think box. That is the benefit. Here we are lucky to have an intelligent man, with a keen sense of humor, with lots of ideas, who is willing to share, what more can anyone ask?

I am here to learn from him, you can too.

Ron

[i_ron]

where did _you_ start

Alan

There are so many simple ways to get hands on experimenting time. Here are a couple of links
to very interesting experiments that might be of interest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA-6PSO2A_k

http://www.stifflerscientific.com/

http://www.totallyamped.net/adams/index.html#top

Ron

[alan]

Thanks