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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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nul-points

Quote from: CRANKYpants on July 30, 2008, 11:06:23 PM
DEAR SANDY,

AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY AT LEAST FOR THIS TRANSFORMER DESIGN - YOU NEED LENZ'S LAW TO MAINTAIN THE FLUX UNDER LOAD CONDITIONS OR THE VOLTAGE WILL COLLAPSE AND YOU WILL SUPPLY LITTLE OR NO POWER.

THIS IS WHY WE USE TWO OPPOSING COILS TO "FEED" EACH OTHER THE FLUX REQUIRED TO "SELF REGULATE" THE LOAD VOLTAGE.

NOW THE TRICKY PART IS ENCOURAGING THE SECONDARY LOAD INDUCED BACK EMF TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE RETURN FLUX PATH INTO THE PRIMARY - WHICH WE FEEL WE HAVE ACHIEVED WITH THE MULTI SECONDARY BI-TOROID SCENARIO - WHERE THE "S.L.I.B.E" IS AUTOMATICALLY DRAW OUTWARDS TOWARDS THE LARGER LOWER RELUCTANCE CORES AND RESISTS THE TEMPTATION TO MOVE TOWARDS THE PRIMARY HIGH RELUCTANCE CORE.

HOPE THIS HELPS?

CHEERS
Thane

thanks Thane

appreciate your separate reply - your answers to Yucca's subsequent, more detailed questions, really covered all the bases

looking at the construction of my old 'tri-former' above, the message i'm getting is just to arrange an asymmetrical core geometry between primary & secondaries, as opposed to the symmetrical arrangement i used - and ensure the primary is operated near saturation

topologically, however it looks like i'd hit the target!  :)

going to have to resurrect this one

annoying problem with the clamp meter - hope the Topward system gives you clear results

all the best
sandy

Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc
"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra

CRANKYpants

Quote from: nul-points on July 31, 2008, 10:58:29 PM
thanks Thane

appreciate your separate reply - your answers to Yucca's subsequent, more detailed questions, really covered all the bases

looking at the construction of my old 'tri-former' above, the message i'm getting is just to arrange an asymmetrical core geometry between primary & secondaries, as opposed to the symmetrical arrangement i used - and ensure the primary is operated near saturation

topologically, however it looks like i'd hit the target!  :)

going to have to resurrect this one

annoying problem with the clamp meter - hope the Topward system gives you clear results

all the best
sandy

Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

DEAR SANDY,

HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE "BLUE" SECONDARY TOROID.
JUST TO CONVEY THE SIZE DIFFERENTIALS - THE PRIMARY AND TWO "GREEN" SECONDARIES' WILL BE GOING IN THE CENTRE AT 90 DEGREES - WHICH IS A 12 CM OPENNING. THE "GREEN" TOROIDS WILL BE SET ON TWO 5 CM TOROIDS.

SO THE PRIMARY IS DESIGNED TO SATURATE AND THE "BLUE" TOROID IS HUGE IN COMPARISON.

CHEERS
Thane

nul-points

hi Thane

yes, i see - that will be one massive secondary arrangement!  interesting that you can get the two pairs of secondaries to couple with an arrangement like that

funny, when i was trying to get my head round the primary/secondary interaction of my tri-former i drew it out as nested rectangles in 2D to help visualize the mag paths - it actually looked very close to one of your recently-posted assemblies (the one with gapped IIys?)

i think it was around that stage of your progression to which i must have come closest - but without the Iy / IIy reluctance differentials

i'm actually interested more in pulsed applications at the moment (i have a switched cap thing going on) - do you have any comparative results between the continuous & pulsed waveform behaviour of any of your multi-toroids?

at a guess, the implications of the latest large coil & core content would be sluggish response to pulsed energy

all the best
sandy

Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc
"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra

CRANKYpants

Quote from: nul-points on August 01, 2008, 06:50:58 PM
hi Thane

yes, i see - that will be one massive secondary arrangement!  interesting that you can get the two pairs of secondaries to couple with an arrangement like that

funny, when i was trying to get my head round the primary/secondary interaction of my tri-former i drew it out as nested rectangles in 2D to help visualize the mag paths - it actually looked very close to one of your recently-posted assemblies (the one with gapped IIys?)

i think it was around that stage of your progression to which i must have come closest - but without the Iy / IIy reluctance differentials

i'm actually interested more in pulsed applications at the moment (i have a switched cap thing going on) - do you have any comparative results between the continuous & pulsed waveform behaviour of any of your multi-toroids?

at a guess, the implications of the latest large coil & core content would be sluggish response to pulsed energy

all the best
sandy

Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

WITHOUT REALIZING IT THERE SANDY - YOU HAVE STUMBLED ONTO A DESIGN CRITERIA THAT I HOPE WILL PAN OUT FOR US!

WE ARE BUILDING A PROTOTYPE WHICH REPRESENTS THE "BLUE" SECTIONS IN THIS MODEL.
AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THE PRIMARY COIL TO "BLUE", "YELLOW", "BLACK AND SO ON THE HYSTERISIS CURVE FOR EACH CORE DELAYS THE OUTERMOST COIL'S MAGNETIC FIELD BUILD UP SLIGHTLY.

WE HOPE THIS WILL WORK IN OUR FAVOUR IN CREATING A SCENARIO WHERE THE PRIMARY FREQUENCY IS CHANGING BEFORE THE OUTER COILS HAVE PEAKED.

IN SUCH A CASE THE S.L.I.B.E. (SECONDARY LOAD INDUCED BACK EMF) WILL ALWAYS BE MOVING OUTWARD AND NOT INWARD - IN THEIR EFFORT TO "FILL" THE OUTER METAL CORES.

AS FAR AS COUPLING IS CONCERNED WE COUPLE THE PRIMARY FLUX AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE AND CREATE A "FLUX VACUUM" WHERE THE S.L.I.B.E. HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO MOVE TO THE OUTER CORE AREAS - AND HOPEFULLY BY THE TIME IT STARTS TO WORK ITS WAY BACK ... THE PRIMARY WOULD HAVE ALREADY CHANGED DIRECTION.

OUR TECHNOLOGIES ARE MEANT TO BE AS "KISS" AS POSSIBLE AND ALSO MEANT TO BE A CONSUMER PRODUCT WHICH YOU WOULD PURCHASE AT A HARDWARE STORE TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THE POWER REQUIRED IN YOUR AIR CONDITIONER OR CLOTHES DRYER AT HOME. PULSED DC ADDS TO THE COMPLEXITY - SO IF WE CAN MAKE THINGS WORK WITH WIRES AN CORES ON SIMPLE AC THEN ALL THE BETTER.

CHEERS
Thane




CRANKYpants

FYI - NEW REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vruf7s9PaA

WHICH WE WILL BE PRESENTING TO SOME OF THE 100 MPG X PIZE TEAMS OVER THE COMING WEEKS.

IF TIME ALLOWED THE "CONVENTIONAL" GENERATOR LOAD WOULD CAUSE THE SYSTEM
TO CONTINUE TO DECELERATE DOWN TO ALMOST A COMPLETE STOP AND PRODUCE ONLY 0.09 WATTS OF OUTPUT POWER.
 
HOWEVER WHEN OPERATED IN THE "PEREPITEIA" MODE THE SYSTEM ACCELERATES AND THE GENERATOR PRODUCES 1.98 WATTS - THIS REPRESENTS A 2100% INCREASE IN OUTPUT POWER AND IT OCCURS WITH A MOTOR INPUT REDUCTION OF 25 WATTS.

CHEERS
Thane