Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[wattsup]

Engaging the four other coils is the same as shorting the coils.  Thane did this by flicking a switch that basically shorted each of the coils one by one. Each flick of the switch that shorted each generator coil increased the rotor RPM more. The coil with the light bulb load is basically shorted by putting a transformer across the generator coil instead of a dead short by way of a switch. The reasoning was that it did not matter if you shorted the coil directly by way of a switch or a transformer you could increase the rotor RPM. By using a transformer you could get useful work (lighting multiple bulbs) out of the system while increasing the rotor RPM. It stood to reason that instead of shorting the four other generator coils with a switches you could short them using a transformer for each coil and harvest the energy. Based upon the output of the one generator coil being shorted with a transformer Thane figured the other four coils being shorted with a transformer along with adding four additional coils would produce more power output than the system was using to run the Ryobi motor. Sounded simple enough but there was a lot of work to do to meet his self imposed May 3rd demo deadline.
  What is really strange is that Thane always was very open and posted good or bad results. Now he is not posting anything or logging in for over a week..

@hydrocontrol

I had figured that shorting the four was part of it but when you do live demos, observers will want to confirm things like if you are multiplying the bulb output by 5, then they will want to verify that the resistance (short) across the four other coils are identical to that of the bulb/transformer. But other things can then happen.

So, there is also the possibility that while doing this demo they all realized that by simply shorting the four other coils, this keeps the energy inside the coil and acted something like when he was using his HV/HC setup using the HV coil to increase RPM but not to produce output.

One coil produces energy that is consumed while the four other coils are just shorted, not really consumed but directly returned inside the four coils. Can this be equated to true power output of the 5 combined? I don't know but I have a feeling this has something to do with it.

So maybe one question is what is the difference of the magnetic environment around a generator coil and its influence on the magnet rotor when it is loaded by a power consuming device like a light bulb versus when it is simply shorted.

Too answer this question they could have then really loaded the 5 coils and that's where they may have run into some unexpected problems. Anyways this is pure speculation on my part since I was not there but these questions would logically, in my view, be asked and while guys are on location, Thane may have felt compelled to try and address them only realizing that you can increase coil magnetism or increase coil output on a real load, but not both to the same extent.

But again, I may even be further up the creek by now.

[hydrocontrol]

@Wattsup
At this point we are both speculating. Until either one of us starts a serious replication or Thane gives us an update we could scratch our heads all day coming up with a lot of "what if's" . Thane is by far the best person to answer how the results played out and it would be nice if he came back with an answer if the self running attempt worked or not. Frankly if it did not self run I would not be too surprised but I believe it could be really close. This generator setup looks to be a lot more viable than most "over the counter" wind generators and that was the direction I was going to take.  If I could replace the Ryobi motor with a wind turbine and get a few more watts out than a standard wind generator then that would be great. If the wind just spun a fake turbine and the generator self ran.... well that would be great as well... Either case is a win for most people and I will take that win anyday...

[Covey]

Here's something weird, if you search for Overunity through Google.com and click on it, it takes you to a porn site http://nnovclub.ru/?topic=4047.msg95149 .
I was looking up info on Thane through Google and when I clicked on Google's link it took me to the site listed above. It looks like it's only Google and yes I tried it on my systems then called family to make sure I wasn't being redirected. I am a Network Admin, (mostly tech now) so sometimes I do know what I'm talking about and this is the case now. I checked through yahoo.com search and no prob but any link that takes you here from Google.com and you end up here, http://nnovclub.ru/?topic=4047.msg95149.
Maybe I should contact the admin for this site..

anyway, just thought people would like to know..

[hydrocontrol]

Here's something weird, if you search for Overunity through Google.com and click on it, it takes you to a  site http://nnovclub.ru/?topic=4047.msg95149 .
I was looking up info on Thane through Google and when I clicked on Google's link it took me to the site listed above. It looks like it's only Google and yes I tried it on my systems then called family to make sure I wasn't being redirected. I am a Network Admin, (mostly tech now) so sometimes I do know what I'm talking about and this is the case now. I checked through yahoo.com search and no prob but any link that takes you here from Google.com and you end up here, http://nnovclub.ru/?topic=4047.msg95149.
Maybe I should contact the admin for this site..

anyway, just thought people would like to know..

Very interesting indeed. I just tried it and it did the same for me as well. The very first link claims "overunity.com" but it takes you to the Russian site. One of the mulitple popups is the same teen bad site that popped up from selecting the Thane thread directly from Overunity.com before. Perhaps this "hijacking" is causing Thane from updating results.

Stephan really needs to fix this ASAP as it will affect his forum greatly.

[minde4000]

Wow. I cant find much about thane or his projects either on google or yahoo or altavista (just a few days ago google search offered multiple working links about him and his project) . Wiki posts dissapeared also . The only "overunity.com" link does take me to russian site too.  Some of the links including videos from other sites do work if searched including full name.