Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[jibbguy]

The above comment is incorrect. So despite being completely off-topic, i felt the need to correct this fallacy.

Throughout History, innovation has meant greater prosperity, not less.... And there are certainly proofs of this. In the 1900's and 1910's ; thousands made their fortunes by moving from the horse and carriage trade over to selling or supporting automobiles. Thousands more did it by moving from lamp oil to electricity. These people made much more money in their new endeavors than was ever possible in the old trades, This will also be true when the clean, safe, and cheap energy technologies start to appear... Whether the buggy whip manufacturers and whale oil salesmen want them to or not

Those that claim disaster and despair when free energy comes to us have nothing to base these predictions of doom on.... AT ALL.

It appears some around the internet are now waging a psy-ops campaign to frighten us into NOT WANTING free energy... Because they realize that is the only way to stop it from happening

The reality is that such devices will be a tremendous boon to the economy, in many ways. First, there still will be a need for petroleum and coal: Over 33% of it is not used for energy purposes. It just means their 100 years of easy profits, and their control over the entire world... Will be over. Thank God, it won't come too soon! They've nearly destroyed it already.

Second, there is the incredible boost it will give to our nearly-destroyed domestic manufacturing base.... Creating huge numbers of new good-paying jobs for the poor and middle class. This creates much more tax revenue than any lying, suppressing, polluting, and tax cheating trans-national corporation ever did ... We don't get to declare ourselves "offshore", we can’t hide our money in Swiss or Cayman bank accounts, we actually pay taxes and buy things here

Imagine a country with unemployment at World War Two levels again.... This in turn stabilizes the economy and the Dollar by ending the huge deficits... So the wall street gamblers and international banker extortionists can no longer hold us for ransom: With an economy based on manufacture and new entrepreneurs, no one will care what those criminals on the stock exchange do anymore.... They will lose the ability to control our entire society and our lives. Good riddance to bad rubbish! They will be lucky if they don't get strung up by piano wire in the piazza... As they really deserve. Loss of trillions in easy profits, and the ability to run everyone's life, will hurt them enough to make me happy lol. 

It will take 20 years or more to explore and fully saturate all the parallel applications from these new energy technologies, and in the meantime, our citizens and businesses will enjoy the benefits of cheap and plentiful energy.... Allowing small business to compete with the huge corporations that have dominated markets and suppressed competition for so long.

And perhaps the best thing of all is, the secret tax we pay for energy... Larger and more regressive than any tax every levied by a government.. One that is forced on us by lying criminals, never elected by anyone, who control the energy markets with illegal insider stock trading and secret trust cartels... Will finally end. And we will finally begin to have an opportunity for independence and prosperity that we could only dream of before. 

... Maybe all this is what they don't want to see?

So go on folks, believe the gloomy tales of disaster of what would happen if our "friends and benefactors" the oil and coal barons are de-throned..... Even though there is no evidence for those tales at all. Believe it because that is easier and "safer" than considering the chance of your own real freedom... Your own real independence from the energy cartels... Your own chance at a more prosperous life free from wars, free from pollution, and free from unseen control by an un-elected elite hiding behind a curtain. And in so doing, reject the promise of these technologies, that DO EXIST and ARE COMING whether they want them to or not. Because in the end, it will be our choice: To be slaves forever, or to have the balls to be truly free.

[hydrocontrol]

Hi Jibbguy,
Perhaps I am too much gloom and doom. I could have gone into a lot more pros/cons of a conversion to a better energy system. In the long term it would work out better for everyone. It is the short term that is problem.

You stated "It just means their 100 years of easy profits, and their control over the entire world... Will be over. Thank God, it won't come too soon! They've nearly destroyed it already."

Do you have any idea how big they have become in the last 100 years ? Do you think that they will be happy to let go of their death grip and control. They control a huge aspect of our civilization and to think they will meekly just give up 65 % (Over 33% of it is not used for energy purposes) is like an ostrich sticking its head in the sand thinking the danger will go away. Why do you think they are investing heavily with their billions of profits into wind, hydro, and solar production instead of more oil exploration. They do not want to let the "control" to slip away. Just watch. Whatever materials are needed for a OU machine will suddenly become scarce or extremely expensive. More than likely it will be both extremely expensive and scarce. They have the money to buy up those resources. We gave them the money. Your not happy with it. I am not happy with it. The change will have to be grass roots and it will have to be quick. The problem is that the grass roots do not have the resources to be quick.

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi folks, very very good post Jibbguy and i could not have said it better. Hydrocontrol, i think the one piece of the puzzle your overlooking is the unseen and this unseen is also another elite controller act of suppression and coverup, which is the many ships in the sky that have been seen throughout earths history. And as usual the world controllers have tried to make us fear them, even though the greater majority of our space brothers and sisters have been looking out for us and the planet. Actually i think the mere fact were all still here should be a pretty good indicator that higher forces from our creator are at work to keep things in balance till times such as now when the world controllers are stripped of their power to control humanity any longer and engineered lack is over. I'm rather amused at some of their disinformation agents who claim its the peoples fault for not having enough money or necessities of life because they attract lack to themselves by thinking they lack. Although this has an element of truth, its being used to maintain the status quo and i notice some religions carry this same theme by causing people to feel guilt and shame. Our creator and all creation supplies more than enough of everything to supply the population of this world, but as i said Jibbguy covered that story.
peace love light 

[hydrocontrol]

Hydrocontrol, i think the one piece of the puzzle your overlooking is the unseen and this unseen is also another elite controller act of suppression and coverup, which is the many ships in the sky that have been seen throughout earths history.

I am sure we are all overlooking pieces of the puzzle. 
I was not trying to start a viewpoint war or change the purpose or topic of this thread. There are already many threads here with topics like the direction this is going.  I should have just answered Corvey with my first couple of paragraphs on applications and left the speculative ramifications out of it. My feelings are that both mine and Jibbguys views are correct. Mine being a short term view and Jibbguys being a long term view.
Since Thane has not logged in here since May 3rd it now looks like the replicators are the only ones left to carry on. I have my aluminum rotor done. Now on to mounting.

[Covey]

You know I have to agree with all of you on this one. Hydro you are right about the fear the government has in losing control and I completely agree with you on how I would send out the information. I would use the energy for myself and outsource the knowledge to everyone freely much like Thane is doing. It is the safest because we all agree the powers that be can and will destroy you and your life and your families and any other evil means of controlling or stopping you forever. Thane gave out the info and we all know how to duplicate it, should they try and shut him up we all know enough to continue his work. From what we've already seen if he was successful with the last demo then he most assuredly has created OU and that we all can duplicate. If I was the evil powers that be and I new the Genie was out of the bottle and I needed to get it back in because of this situation with Thane and his open source I would have him be threatened and have him come out in public and tell everyone it was a failure so none of us would even remotely continue because we believe him but the truth is he is being threatened and to do anything otherwise would be death for him or his family or both. So if he comes out and says it was a failure I intend to continue just to prove to myself I am or not becoming a conspiracy nut.

Covey

We all dream of the day when the paradigm shift begins and all the corruption is done away with. We no longer venture out for our own particular greed and instead grow together as one but individually. We as a Race can succeed and do anything and once we no longer are under control for energy we truly can reach out beyond the stars. We can show how much potential Mankind has to find the final frontier, Truth, Knowledge and Understanding.