Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[aether22]

I edited a message shortly after writing it but Thane had already replied and I don't think he noticed the revision.

In essence yes I was totally wrong to suggest the test with the stators (hadn't thought it through at all).

The test I should have suggested: (but see that I may need to do it since it's a big ask)
Run it with a friction load and no stator anythings, then try it again but with no magnets on the rotor, replaced by equivilent weights. (monitor the rpm, both tests include full steel shaft)

But I really do doubt it's the Neos on the rotor since the poles are a very short distance apart (and the flux is shorted out by the rim of the wheel on the outside) and there is an even number of Norths and South facing the motor, so by all accoints it should be next to didly squat getting to the motor, more likely the steel shaft is a bit magnetically hard and retains a slight magnetic field..

[PulsedPower]

@groundloop Oops I did read all the posts but replied from memory and missed the bit about the plastic end cover, my mistake. One thing that I did notice was that your motor is a shaded pole motor whereas Thanes motor is a split phase motor. Shaded pole motors have different slip characteristics to split phase phase motors, maybe that is a factor.

@Thane  It is possible to make an induction motor exceed it synchronous speed and have negative slip just ny driving it instead of loading it then it supplies power, I have never seen it done with a split phase motor but it is well documented and quite popular with 3 phase motors. Thanks for The clarification on the testing, it wasnt aparent in the first video.  Now I am getting interested

[innovation_station]

hello


so i drew you all up a real simple unit  thought i wouuld post it and see what ya think lol

i quite like it

ist

[Groundloop]

@groundloop Oops I did read all the posts but replied from memory and missed the bit about the plastic end cover, my mistake. One thing that I did notice was that your motor is a shaded pole motor whereas Thanes motor is a split phase motor. Shaded pole motors have different slip characteristics to split phase phase motors, maybe that is a factor.

@PulsedPower,

Yes, I agree. I will need the same type of motor as Thane is using.

Groundloop.

[Groundloop]

@innovation_station,

Could you also provide a short text describing you drawing?
(From Left to Right, perhaps?) E.g. Ball Bearing, Stator Coil, Steel Axle etc.

Thanks,
Groundloop.