Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[JustMe]

OK, let's focus on what we agree about then. I agree with your statement that the "entire foundation of the observations" is now this brass-vs-steel thing. Let's move forward from there. It's a good place to focus.

WE don't get to move forward from anywhere.  Thane, Luc, Vince, Aether22 and others who bother to avail themselves of a means to move forward will move forward.  WE get to hang out on the thread and observe, and appreciate their time and effort.  This whole thing where you feel a pressing need to drive the science bus for a bunch of unruly incompetent children is a complete illusion.  Or delusion.  Whatever. Pick your "usion".

[aether22]

OK, let's focus on what we agree about then. I agree with your statement that the "entire foundation of the observations" is now this brass-vs-steel thing. Let's move forward from there. It's a good place to focus.

WE don't get to move forward from anywhere.  Thane, Luc, Vince, Aether22 and others who bother to avail themselves of a means to move forward will move forward.  WE get to hang out on the thread and observe, and appreciate their time and effort.  This whole thing where you feel a pressing need to drive the science bus for a bunch of unruly incompetent children is a complete illusion.  Or delusion.  Whatever. Pick your "usion".

I'd pick fusion if it's an option, is it?

Of course you 2 aren't going to build a generator, one is a bit too much of a girl and would be afraid of breaking their nails, and the other is busy being a mother

[JustMe]

I'd pick fusion if it's an option, is it?

No it is not! You are "moving forward", and so are ineligible to "pick an usion".  We all know that good science requires very rigid (if selectively applied) rules. Sorry.

[JustMe]

I wonder if Stephan would allow a read only sticky thread with replication information while this is a hot topic so replicators don't have to wade through all our nonsense.

[jacksatan]

...I will offer 3 to 1 odds to anyone who wants to bet that this is over unity... any takers?

Be careful, you need to also specify that the only units that qualify are Watts: not orgone, chi, torsion, zpf, manna, bions etc. Just Watts - otherwise you could lose your shirt.

PB

nah - I'd take manna too - provided it could light my over-unity light bulb... or even if it could keep me alive in the desert for 40 years... scratch that last one, I meant if it could keep JustMe alive in the desert for 40 years... heck, even if it can't keep her alive in the desert for 40 years, I'd pay just to see her try...