Thane Heins Perepiteia.

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[markzpeiverson]

Good stuff. But considering that the ZPF effect requires frequencies of 100,000,000 Hz (Blanco) or even 100,000,000,000 Hz (Koch), even to obtain what they call "minuscule" results, and that they quote the frequency dependence as quartic (ie fourth power), what is the probability that this effect has a bearing on Thane's setup, which is operating at only 60 Hz?

Whatever the effect is that Thane's experiment is demonstrating, I think it unlikely that it is related to ZPF. It seems much more likely that we're in the realm of more conventional EM theory.

PB

Did I say anywhere that I felt ZPF was a likely possibility, or even an unlikely possibility?  No.  It seemed that Thane was wanting to learn a little more about the ZPF, as any good inventor/scientist would want to educate himself about ANY possible factors that could affect his work/research.  Since aether22's description, although quite thorough, was anecdotal, I wanted to bring some mainstream science into the explanation, for Thane, and more importantly, for the rational skeptics reading this thread, since they roll their eyes when one mentions anything like ZPE.

RE: your reference to the paper which states that the effect was 'miniscule'...and that is reason enough to rule ZPF out...

Not so fast, as one of the interesting anecdotal things attributed to ZPE/ZPF phenomenon is that it is highly nonlinear, and that once a threshold was reached, there was an 'avalanche' effect where the energy flow increased exponentially.  Have I seen this in person?  No, but a few of the people who claimed these affects were very credible and knowledgeable people.

Now, as far as the likelihood that this is at least partially a ZPF/aether effect... well, as you say, I think one should focus on more conventional explanations at this time.

-Mark