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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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PerpetualLurker

Quote from: OilBarren on April 12, 2008, 09:47:32 AM
ONCE THE PROTOTYPE IS OPTIMIZED - THAT IS EXACTLY ONE OF THE OPERATIONAL PARAMATERS.
THE PRIMARY IS ISOLATED AND WILL OPERATE WITH A Pf = 0 AND SHOULD NOT DEVIATE FROM NO LOAD TO FULL LOAD.

Take as much time as you need to improve the prototype, but when you take the next set of measurements can you apply the 100 ohm load first and set the input voltage high enough to get cos theta readings that are non-zero on the meter.Ã,  Then increase the voltage slightly to make them stable.Ã, 

I suspect the meter defaults to displaying exactly zero when there is insufficient input for it to do its measurements.Ã,  In that case zero means indeterminate.Ã,  No-one should expect you to produce a power factor of zero; your primary coil still has resistance.

JustMe

Quote from: PerpetualLurker on April 12, 2008, 10:16:14 AM

Take as much time as you need to improve the prototype, but when you take the next set of measurements can you apply the 100 ohm load first and set the input voltage high enough to get cos theta readings that are non-zero on the meter.  Then increase the voltage slightly to make them stable. 

I suspect the meter defaults to displaying exactly zero when there is insufficient input for it to do its measurements.  In that case zero means indeterminate.  No-one should expect you to produce a power factor of zero; your primary coil still has resistance.


Saying "Take as much time as you need to improve the prototype" is pompous and assy.  Appointing yourself the meter police (25% of your posts now) is pompous and assy, and no one will hear.  Pontificating on protocol is pompous and assy, and no one will follow. Surely you must know all this, which leaves your motivations as elusive as they are tiring. Stating the readily apparent insults *everyone*.

You seem fond of not-so-subtle digs at the competence and genuineness of others, and yet you're well on your way to becoming a caricature (again?).  Why don't you try being upfront?  People could respect that. Some actual honest and insightful discussion just might ensue.  Would be a lot more interesting than round two of a dull cat and mouse game that is likely to see you mostly tuned out, and your contribution marginalized more than your intelligence and interest warrants.

OilBarren

Quote from: JustMe on April 12, 2008, 12:46:00 PM

Saying "Take as much time as you need to improve the prototype" is pompous and assy.  Appointing yourself the meter police (25% of your posts now) is pompous and assy, and no one will hear.  Pontificating on protocol is pompous and assy, and no one will follow. Surely you must know all this, which leaves your motivations as elusive as they are tiring. Stating the readily apparent insults *everyone*.

You seem fond of not-so-subtle digs at the competence and genuineness of others, and yet you're well on your way to becoming a caricature (again?).  Why don't you try being upfront?  People could respect that. Some actual honest and insightful discussion just might ensue.  Would be a lot more interesting than round two of a dull cat and mouse game that is likely to see you mostly tuned out, and your contribution marginalized more than your intelligence and interest warrants.

AND BEING AN OBVIOUS PENGUINS FAN DOESN'T HELP MUCH RIGHT NOW EITHER.

Thane

JustMe

Quote from: OilBarren on April 12, 2008, 01:41:51 PM

AND BEING AN OBVIOUS PENGUINS FAN DOESN'T HELP MUCH RIGHT NOW EITHER.

Thane

NO IT DOESN'T. And you're right.  It's totally obvious. P(lays) L(ots) is clearly Sidney Crosby.

Between the Polarbreezes and the %$&#* Penguins, all I want to do is go to the equator and stay there.

Sniff.  :'(

Monday is another day.

LarryC

Quote from: aether22 on April 12, 2008, 06:45:57 AM
Larry, Thanks very much for the method.

Though I think with a hole saw (unless I switch to a spade bit) I will need to cut the wood through to sever it and then glue the 2 pieces back together, still it's the best idea yet so I think I'll do it, just need to swap the hole saw size I just bought for one slightly smaller. (I'll ensure that the coil can be moved over the core so they coil can be pushed back to the edge of the core once the wooden holder is off it)

I just tested the largest single coil I previously made with all 18 magnets and no acceleration was apparent so it is increasingly clear my .53 (approx 23 gauge) wire is all wrong.
Though it is possible that adding more coils mas a greater effect than adding the same number of turns to a single coil.


Wanted to pass some more info about my setup. The spool is 6" in diameter (luckily got it for a Newman motor try in the late 80's) and the largest coil Ohm that I wound was 18. So I'm not sure how a different size spool and 11 times the coil length would effect any possible twist or breaks.   

I tape heavy cardboard at a desired distance from each end of the core to act as a temporary bobbin. Needed 10 MM for the transformer members.

Let me know how you do. I'll be winding my 200 in the next couple of days.

Thanks,
Larry