Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[OUman]

As opposed to unknowingly replicating someone else's work and only thinking you're "revolutionizing something new"? Click here: http://depalma.pair.com

That so many others have noted similar things makes Thane's work more urgent and not less. If there is indeed something of value in these observations scattered over at least three decades, it's well past time for it to come off the bench. The mainstream attention he's gotten may mean that the time is now, and certainly means the opportunity is his. Why add negative pressure?

I agree and I don't intend it to be negative pressure - you misunderstand my point. There has been a tremendous amount of work done in this field - many, many people have laboured for years on it over decades. Does it not make sense to learn from all of that very extensive research as a springboard to move forward, rather than deliberately ignoring it? Those previous researchers developed a body of knowledge that could be very useful here; and they also went down a lot of blind alleys that could be avoided here with a knowledge of what they did. De Palma's N-Machine is only one of many examples that could speed this project along with knowledge of what has gone before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_De_Palma

[JustMe]

On another topic:
I think hartiberlin should grant you moderator rights, so that you are able to keep PB and his clones in check.
Imagine somebody new getting interested in your tech and having to wade through this thread.
Just imagine.

Even if you yourself don't want to delete the detractions, you should be able to transfer the moderator right to a person you trust.

Harti, you should OFFER this to Thane.

I understand the frustration and concern, but censorship is rarely a good answer to anything.  The best defence against unreasonable detraction is a strong and enthusiastic community. That can be easily built and maintained through communication, openness, progress etc. Small 's' skeptics ask fair and reasonable questions that deserve airing and consideration. I consider myself to have one foot planted firmly on little 's' skeptic soil. Big 'S' (feel free to read that fast) Skeptics add nothing, and marginalize themselves.  They don't need to be deleted, and shouldn't be, because that has the potential to supress challenge across the board. This shouldn't be run like a fiefdom.

[JustMe]

I agree and I don't intend it to be negative pressure - you misunderstand my point. There has been a tremendous amount of work done in this field - many, many people have laboured for years on it over decades. Does it not make sense to learn from all of that very extensive research as a springboard to move forward, rather than deliberately ignoring it? Those previous researchers developed a body of knowledge that could be very useful here; and they also went down a lot of blind alleys that could be avoided here with a knowledge of what they did. De Palma's N-Machine is only one of many examples that could speed this project along with knowledge of what has gone before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_De_Palma

In theory, yes.  In practice, I'm not so sure.  The DePalma and Adams versions credited the vacuum or the aether.  Hoptoad's work pointed to impedance.  Thane started with back-EMF and based on experimental results has moved away from that and is looking at capacitance. None of these past machines were exactly the same, and none had the very specific goal of powering an electric vehicle. It's just as likely that Thane would get bogged down.  At this point, he needs to understand the parameters of operation just well enough to build something that outperforms a comparable conventional system.  If he builds it, they (the theoreticians) will come, and full understanding and optimization can follow. The most important unsolved question to me right now is 'Can it be made into something practical?'

[OilBarren]

In theory, yes.  In practice, I'm not so sure.  The DePalma and Adams versions credited the vacuum or the aether.  Hoptoad's work pointed to impedance.  Thane started with back-EMF and based on experimental results has moved away from that and is looking at capacitance. None of these past machines were exactly the same, and none had the very specific goal of powering an electric vehicle. It's just as likely that Thane would get bogged down.  At this point, he needs to understand the parameters of operation just well enough to build something that outperforms a comparable conventional system.  If he builds it, they (the theoreticians) will come, and full understanding and optimization can follow. The most important unsolved question to me right now is 'Can it be made into something practical?'

HERE'S MY LOGIC:

1) BUILD AND PROVE THE HIGH VOLTAGE GENERATOR WHICH ACCELERATES THE PRIME MOVER UNDER LOAD.

2) BUILD AND PROVE THE TOROID GENERATOR WHICH IGNORES THE LOAD AND DOES NOT DECELERATE THE PRIME MOVER UNDER LOAD.

3) PERFECT THE (ALREADY) OVER 100% BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER WHICH ONLY DRAWS REACTIVE CURRENT.

4) CONVINCE ULI AND MR. YOUNG TO USE ALL THREE TECHNOLOGIES IN THEIR "PINK" LINCOLN

5) WATCH THEM WIN THE X PRIZE.

Thane

[OilBarren]

CAN YOU EXPLAIN "ZERO LEVEL" PLZ.

I tried to edit my posting
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4047.msg92650.html#msg92650
to make it more clear.
Maybe it is still not clear enough, then I will try to clarify on another occasion in the future.

IT'S OK I GOT IT - I THOUGHT PERHAPS YOU WERE REFERRING TO THIS CRITICAL MINIMUM
THRESHOLD SPEED - WHICH BELOW THE PRIME MOVER DECELERATES RATHER THAN ACCELERATES.

On another topic:
I think hartiberlin should grant you moderator rights, so that you are able to keep PB and his clones in check.
Imagine somebody new getting interested in your tech and having to wade through this thread.
Just imagine.

IT WOULD BE COOL IF THERE WAS A COMPUTER PROGRAM OPTION DEVELOPED IN WHICH A PERSON COULD CHOOSE TO "IGNORE ALL" OF COMMENTS BY PB - LIKE A "BLOCK EMAIL" OPTION.
ANY PROGRAMERS IN THE HOUSE?.

Even if you yourself don't want to delete the detractions, you should be able to transfer the moderator right to a person you trust.

OR DO LIKE I DO JUST DON'T READ HIS/HER SHIT.
UNLESS OF COURSE YOU CAN MAKE A GOOD JOKE OUT OF IT BECAUSE IT IS SO LAME.

Thane