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Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

Started by couldbe, February 20, 2008, 08:45:25 AM

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Omnibus

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on March 25, 2008, 06:13:08 PM
I was wondering how hard would it have been to place a rotor in the middle of that SMOT setup, drill a hole in the steelball and place it on one end of the rotor then place another steelball on the other end so there balanced and start one ball at B once it moves along and down the opposite ball should move across and up to B starting the process again if the disign attracts in but I have to wonder why the guy is lifting the steelball so carefully up to B from A, is the magnetic flux making it hard to lift or does it need to start at a certain point to work.
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Graham

That's very hard. This is a difficult engineering problem but you have to understand the essence of violation of CoE in order to figure that out.

ramset

OMNI knows his stuff   not the best diplomat    but then this is not about diplomacy   Chet
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utilitarian

Quote from: Omnibus on March 25, 2008, 07:31:29 PM
That's very hard. This is a difficult engineering problem but you have to understand the essence of violation of CoE in order to figure that out.

It is exactly as hard as making a gravity wheel.  Very difficult engineering problem indeed.  Some would say impossible, but those people probably do not understand that paradox of doublespeak, the SMOT, which produces excess energy while simultaneously requiring the human operator to keep flipping the ball back up with his hand.  Pay no attention to the hand, look what happens on the ramp.  Ball goes up, see?  Free energy for everyone.  Just make sure your arms are in good shape - you will be lifting balls for a while.  :)

utilitarian

Quote from: ramset on March 25, 2008, 07:49:48 PM
OMNI knows his stuff   not the best diplomat    but then this is not about diplomacy   Chet

Um no, he is just like Steorn and the countless of others who claim to have overunity, but end up spending all their efforts to defend themselves from critics who naggingly point to the device that cannot power itself, instead of simply showing us a self-runner.  It all goes the same way:  "Look see, mathematically, less energy in than out.  My formula cannot be wrong.  The math works out perfectly.  What's that you say, why can't it power itself?  Just an engineering problem!  Pay no mind, will be solved shortly.  In the meantime, look at all that excess energy that I can mathematically prove!  Look at my breakthrough!"  Brother, please.  How about we use the scientific method for a change.

Look, it's real simple, folks.  If a SMOT is overunity, then it can escape the ramp with enough kinetic energy to be able to loop.  Or at least you should be able to line up some SMOTs in a circle and have perpetual motion.  The fact that this is impossible speaks volumes.

ramset

All math aside if you can't see the reality of the smot the magnets moving the ball against gravity  the rest [the easier part ] is surely not far off  OMNI IS right  IMHO   Chet
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