Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[couldbe]

On the steorn forum, Harvey says that the reason the roller in Clanzer's video
< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4kq1oNMtws >

goes through all three gates, is that the gates are close enough so that they are magnetically coupled, which means that there is no repulsion at the entrance to gate 2 and gate3.

I wonder if Clanzer or somebody could test this by moving the roller near the entrance to gate 2 and seeing if there is any repulsion. If there is none, then the gates are magnetically coupled and need to be moved farther apart until repulsion appears at the entrance to gate 2. If the roller is then started at the entrance to gate 1, and still enters gate 2, then the tri-force magnets are probably OU, else they are not.

Though after seeing the video that dusty put up, it looks like the thing is a bust: his rotor went past a series of magnets where there was (probably) no repulsion, but stopped when it came around to the first one because there was repulsion there.

[Omnibus]

@couldbe,

The outcome of @Dusty's experiment was expected. I explained it several times. It's a waste of time to go along that route. A magnetic motor won't work if there's no assisting properly overlaid additional field (as in @xpenzif's and @ltesung888's) or there's no field change from withing, caused by the action of the motor itself (as in Torbay motor, @alsetalokin's and Lego motor). Another way to deal with @Dusty's problem is through brute force, creating the assisting field from wihout through spending external energy, the way Paul Sprain does.

[sm0ky2]

Arrange an array of Gates - of a length determined by the factors below.
angle the gates to approx, 24.3 degree incline (give or take for the strength of your particular magnets)
take a ramp, and place it in front of the first gate, and angle it upwards, until your roller enters the gate from a release at the top of the ramp, WAY outside the influence of the Tri-Forge Gates.


This is your starting point (Point A).

From point A - the roller rolls down the ramp, into the gate entrance, and transverses the gate at approx. 24.3-degree incline, for a distance X. Where X is greater than or equal to the height of Point A, + the extra height needed to return the roller from point B (gate exit) to Point A, down a secondary ramp.

The actuall heights,ramp angles, and number of gates needed may vary. even using the same brand magnets, there is a (slight) difference in each individual magnet, and thus each individual gate.

[HopeForHumanity]

Doesn't he have a different magnet for the reverse test? Maybe it doesn't apply, but there was a difference from just using a solid magnet like in the beginning of clanzers vids.

[Unicron]

MMM this is a bummer

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=jQbuFaeNWdc