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Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

Started by couldbe, February 20, 2008, 08:45:25 AM

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sm0ky2

Quote from: Omnibus on March 30, 2008, 01:55:54 AM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 30, 2008, 01:52:57 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 30, 2008, 01:47:54 AM

I told you, that's wrong. You are confused about elementary notions in physics. Like I said, don't continue with this. Do something to clarify for yourself these elementary notions before coming here to discuss.

That's ALL you've said,  "its wrong, i dont like it, its not right",,


Yet you fail to clarify WHY you feel this way. or offer any Alternative to wha ti am saying. All of which i am saying, can be verified. You have offered nothing to counter this.
It's obvious you are in disagreement, and that you do not understand. But unless you  express what exactly it is that you are confused about, i cannot help you to understand.



No, that's not all I've said. I've explained that to you but you don't want to learn. I can't repeat it over and over again any time it occurs to you I should. I already said, go back in the thread and read my explanation.

all that you explained was that you do not understand what i keep trying to tell you. i can only say this in so many ways before i start repeating myself.. you simply do not understand and i cannot help you.

You dont understand point-perspective potential energy, so i tried to explain it without using ANY magnetic potential, and you dont understand physical potential energy either. I am at a loss with trying to communicate with you.

If you read what i am saying, and perform the experiments i have suggessted, you can clearly see where your confusion arrised from. (at least most people would, you obviously dont, or haven't tried)

I guess none of it matters. you can spend 3 more years trying to understand why your SMOT doesnt work. maybe when you get a little older you can look back and realize what i tried to teach you.

It's just sad that you have to keep disrupting Threads with this SMOT Non-sense.
Your failure to comprehend has prevented you from understanding how the SMOT operates.
Your failure to perform Experiments has prevented you from seeing how the SMOT operates

I suppose i could record it into an Audio file,
but you wouldn't listen to more than 2 words then send a reply :
    "you're wrong. my SMOT just doesnt work because... because....  of .... because of technical dificulties in construction"

I do not believe that you are a scientist. i would be willing to bet you never made it much past highschool level calculus. 


I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Omnibus

On the contrary, I explained why Ma is not only not zero, as you misunderstand it, but has the maximum value. Also, I told you a number of times that you're confused about the difference between energy and force, as is also seen in you latest posts. Don't continue with this. It's a useless exercise before you come to terms (no pun intended) with some basic notions in physics.

sm0ky2

Quote from: Omnibus on March 30, 2008, 02:14:00 AM
On the contrary, I explained why Ma is not only not zero, as you misunderstand it, but has the maximum value. Also, I told you a number of times that you're confused about the difference between energy and force, as is also seen in you latest posts. Don't continue with this. It's a useless exercise before you come to terms (no pun intended) with some basic notions in physics.


DID you even READ my second post? I DID NOT USE ANY MAGNETIC POTENTIAL.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Omnibus

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 30, 2008, 02:18:35 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 30, 2008, 02:14:00 AM
On the contrary, I explained why Ma is not only not zero, as you misunderstand it, but has the maximum value. Also, I told you a number of times that you're confused about the difference between energy and force, as is also seen in you latest posts. Don't continue with this. It's a useless exercise before you come to terms (no pun intended) with some basic notions in physics.


DID you even READ my second post? I DID NOT USE ANY MAGNETIC POTENTIAL.


For this analysis you must use magnetic potential energy and you are confused about what it really is. So further discussion with you on that is only a waste of time.

sm0ky2

If you had any understanding of advanced magnetics, you would know that the potential energy of the charge within the field reduces to M^2 / A (meters over Amperes). Which is a DIRECT relationship to the LOCATION OF THE CHARGE. (the ball).

You are hung up on this pre-concieved notion of full-magnetic potential. We do not need to examine this, because it is already given to be a CONSTANT, throughought ANY point within the experiment.

What we examine is the Potential Energy (in Joules) imparted onto the BALL, AT THE LOCATION THE BALL IS AT IN THAT MOMENT!!! - This is related to the FORCE over the DISTANCE the ball (can) travels, NOT the full magnetic potential of the field.

The Full Magnetic Potential of the Field is ONLY exerted on the ball  FROM B -> C. and even not really in that case, because the field 'starts' at a point to the left of B. So in the SMOT, you will NEVER  really obtain the full magnetic potential - at ANY point throughout the cycle. there is NO reason to even view the system from that classical analysis.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.