Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

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This post applies to the spinning crome thingy.

Well I bought myself two magnetix 35pc metallic silver sets on Friday. I believe they are what the guy used originally. Here is a link to what they look like:

http://www.target.com/gp/detail-tab-popup.html/ref=in_de_detail-item-display/602-9842367-3636616?ie=UTF8&parentStoreItem=0&asin=B0001KU8QU&tabToSelect=additionalImages

(couldn't find a link for the 35 piece sets, and just so you know, they aren't all metal, the metallic look is plastic painted to look like chrome)

And if anyone else that lives in the US wants to buy some for cheap, KB Toys has the 35pc sets for $5.98. And If you join the www.kbclubhouse.com/ you get a $5 off your first purchase coupon. So I got two sets for about the price of one. 

I am trying to make mine as close to the original as possible. I don't have any of those rectangular black magnets, but I did try using some really thin rectangular refrigerator magnets. I also oriented my rotor magnets according to Clanzer's poles in his 8th video. The top triangle poles are oriented like Clanzer's first video. I don't know if the original guy spun his up using his hands to get the 10 minute run down time or not, but I did.

Mine would run for 11 to 12 minutes gradually slowing down and then ocilating back and forth at the end. The run down times weren't affected by having arms on it or not. The only significant differance I saw was that if you used only a bearing to suspend the rotor, the run down time was about three minutes. And I am not sure because I can't remember exactly, but I believe it was also three minutes if it was only suspended by one magnet and a bearing. I guess this confirms what Clanzer said about it spinning longer with more magnets on top.

I will still play some more during the week. If I notice anything monumental I will post a video, but to me the original guys extended run down time might come from the fact that he is using magnetix brand and not geomags. The magnetix only have two magnets at each end of each piece instead of two magnets and a bar between them like in the geomags. So Magnetix just have magnets and ball bearings, which would definilty make a differance. 

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Omnibus,,
     Please,Please STOP. You are doing my swede in mate. If you haven't got anything constructive to say then please don't say anything or at least don't say so much and then drop it. Don't keep ON and ON dragging the same OLD stuff up..

[konduct]

I'm going to ask Stefan if I pay for my membership here, if he will then ban Omnibus. Alchemy's law of equivalent exchange.

[Omnibus]

Omnibus,,
     Please,Please STOP. You are doing my swede in mate. If you haven't got anything constructive to say then please don't say anything or at least don't say so much and then drop it. Don't keep ON and ON dragging the same OLD stuff up..

Do you have anything constructive to say? Not really, correct?

[Omnibus]

The real issue here is that we're continuously bumping into dead ends. Not an inkling of success in terms of a self-sustaining machine anywhere. The only well understood as well as reproducible device still remains the one producing excess energy discontinuously--the SMOT, that is. That device is still the only reason for one to continue having interest in this field.  How is this well understood principle to be used for making a self-sustaining device, that's the real question.

Now I understand that there are some like @Yadaraf who are expecting the irrational to come to the aid. Hope it works for him, not my cup of tea, though. What else can there be to keep the hope for a working pmm alive?

I'm bringing again the same thing--what if it is impossible in principle to build a self-sustaining device, as it appears to be the case, should we abandon the proven ways to obtain energy out of no energy source and not seek ways to develop it for practical purposes?