Liquid hho

[troyd1]

Thanks for the info, this is interesting.

[Farrah Day]

As RA says, the burn rate of hydroxy is extremely fast.  Basically it's too explosive and the burn rate needs to be slowed down in order for it to expand at a rate that can push a piston down rather than blowing a hole in it.

That said, I've seen pictures of WWII vehicles running on hydrogen because of the fuel shortage, with masive gas tanks strapped to the roofs.  I assume that you can alter the timing and get away with it on some of the more rugged engines for a time - though I doubt the explosive stress created does anything for the engine life!

I would expect older engines to cope with hydroxy much better than modern engines with their much finer tolerances.

IronHead

I don't understand your comment.

How will more compressed gas fit in a tank than in liquid state?  Surely liquids by their very nature are denser than gas - afterall liquid is essentially just that - high density gas.

One quite interesting, (actually quite amazing) fact I do know is that due to the compact bonding of the molecules, there is actually more hydrogen in a litre of water than there is in a litre of pure liquid hydrogen!  This highlights just how much energy is stored in water. Sounds ridiculous I know, but it's true.  Don't take my word for it though - look it up!

[Bulbz]

I have just had a brainwave  ...

If HHO used directly can tear a piston apart, why not use a HHO-BioGas Hybrid !... Basically, use HHO to heat the gassifier. The Bio-Gas would be safe enough to power the engine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYA-Er2zmbE

Or here is a direct link to the full video download, that was sent to me from Knowlege Publications.

http://www.ush2.com/knowledgepublications-dot-com-free-hydrogen-class-video.rm

[readyakira]

I think an HHO/bio engine is a great step in the right direction.  I would like to see the move eventually lead to no bio or regular gas at all.  Even bio diesel has emissions that are less then desireable, and electric only cars use so much battery that there should be concerns about replacement disposal of batteries.  But a car that emits only water?  that to me is the ultimate.  Along with FD's amazing fact she points out, how can one not lean towards that direction. 

Anyways FD, I love that fact.  Especially when you consider that not only does that one liter of water have more hydrogen than H in liquid state, but it also carries the nessecary Oxygen to convert it to energy!  If we could only find a way to seperate the water molecule, combust it and use that same water again to start the whole process over, then we would really have something amazing. 

[Farrah Day]

Agreed RA

Water, everyones dream fuel. Convenient, abundant, non-polluting, safe to transport and carry.

If we can only encourage it to ionise without the catalyst being power hungry, heavy current we're laughing!