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Liquid hho

Started by troyd1, February 23, 2008, 07:21:55 AM

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Farrah Day

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February 23, 2008, 02:17:20 PM
Ironhead you said:

QuoteHydrogen does not turn to liquid under pressure . The highest pressure tanks I have seen to date is 180,000 psi where hydrogen is still a gas. The only way to get hydrogen into a liquid state is to remove the heat.


What about the space rockets that use both liquid H2 and O2 as propulsion.  I think you will find that compressing a gas causes it to cool anyway - the principle behind the refridgerator!
Farrah Day

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IronHead

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February 23, 2008, 02:21:22 PM
 you have to compress and pull out the heat at the same time to get Hydrogen to a liquid. -400F somewhere not sure on the exact temp. Compressing alone will not give you these temps. Besides that you can put more hydrogen in a tank compressed than you can in liquid form.

I think a good why to experiment is to use a metal hydride that will absorb the Hydrogen and leave the oxygen behind. A metal hydride can hold up to 800 times its mass in hydrogen saturation   

Bulbz

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February 23, 2008, 04:47:24 PM
Quote from: mscoffman on February 23, 2008, 11:59:56 AM
Browns gas, that is, an uncombusted mix of hydrogen and oxygen gas in stoichiometric proportions
has a dieseling pressure of only 400lbs psi at room temperature I think...So stand back.




Hmmm... Does that mean that you can run a Diesel car on straight HHO, the same way that it will run on Either/Easy Start, without any Diesel in the tank ?.  8)
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Steve Ancell.

readyakira

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February 23, 2008, 06:55:14 PM
Not on straigh HHO your not going to.  The combustion rate is too quick.  You need to slow the combustion down with something, say water vapor, to prevent blowing the head right off the engine.  IC engines are designed for a slow(sorta slow) combustion rate.  you want the energy to push the piston down during it's full power stroke this way acceleration is maximized and the stress from the piston skirt absorbing pressure on alternating sides is minimized.  If your engine was to withstand the combustion, you would find the power wouldn't be it's capable amount, and the engine would not last long. 

Not sure if I worded that in an understandable way, but I think you can get the point from it.

chrls

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February 23, 2008, 07:33:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdV9881tMFw&feature=related

what is in the green tank?..just wondering
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