Overunity Device using Magnets in the 1920's ?

[hansvonlieven]

G?day all,

Now we come to the pulsing required to get the device to work.

Before we get into this though we must take another look at the Freischwinger system in its original form. Because the energised soft iron reed moves between the poles of a magnet there is a definite limit to the amount of movement available. No amount of power will propel it beyond this.

Fig. 7   shows the limits of movement.

In position A the iron reed is un-energised. Since iron is attracted to either pole both poles exert equal pull, the forces balance each other out, and the system is in equilibrium.

If we now energise the reed by turning the coil on, it will become an electromagnet with two distinct poles. We can reverse the polarity of the electromagnet by reversing the flow of current through the coil.

Shall we say a forward current polarises the reed with the north pole facing the permanent magnet. Since like poles repel and unlike poles attract the reed is propelled by both poles to the right, up to the strongest point of attraction (point B). There it will come to rest, having found the point of equilibrium of all participating forces.

Reversing polarity will move the reed in the opposite direction and stop at point C.

If we switch the power off at the extreme points the iron reed will just stick there since it is still attracted, albeit with diminished power. That is why the spring is necessary to bring the reed back to the neutral mid point.

In the design of the motor we have to deal with these ?stick points? in some way before we can induce rotation. This we can do with well timed pulses.

Fig. 8   shows the pulse sequence.

The first pulse is applied as the reed reaches the limit of the magnetic sphere of influence of the horseshoe magnet (A). Strictly speaking this pulse is not required as the soft iron reed is attracted naturally, but an energy injection at this point is advantageous.

The polarity must be reversed when the ?stick point? is reached (here indicated by the black line). This polarity must be kept up until the next ?stick point? is reached (black line in B).

Now we must reverse again (C) until the reed is outside the sphere of influence of the horseshoe magnet.

Needless to say that all four magnets in the motor are energised simultaneously.

Thus we have rotation.

Hans von Lieven

[allcanadian]

@hansvonlieven
LOL, we are on the same runway thats for sure, Hans I built "your" motor last year! But you are only utilizing one pole, I also built the rotary version of Wesley Gary's process which uses both poles of the armature. As well you have no active means for energy recovery such as inductive kickback or transformer action to increase efficiency. It was only a matter of time before sombody got this so we may as well open this can of worms.
If you look at the picture Hans posted we see an armature imbedded in the rotor, a non-metallic rotor, we could concieve this armature as a "monopole" as it relates to the PM field because it does not link in series with it nor does it actively repel the PM field in the usual manner. As such the PM field cannot couple to the armature field thus cannot effect its operation, the armature acts exactly like an open inductor not like a rotor armature as the PM field flux does not flow "through" the armature only "around" it---- this is the key to its operation. The drawback of Hans design is the fact that the armatures other pole is not utilized in any way.A better design is illustrated in the picture below (BA motor), the ring is made of ordinary iron washers with tabs welded on, the PM bridge section is an "H" transformer cut in half with the magnets secured as shown. The dark grey lines are the wires for the series wound armature the red lines are wires for energy revovery if one would wish to raise the output voltage through induction like in a transformer(recommended), the green lines indicate flux lines. This design works very well with the appropriate circuitry and can have many PM sections around the perimeter depending on the rotor diameter.
The next photo(AB motor 2) is a design I developed from the Wesley Gary motor------ It is the Wesley Gary motor  ------ only the rotor happens to run past the magnets and not between them. Here both poles of the armature are utilized, the main diagram is the top view, the red lines are windings on the dark grey armatures, on the lower left is a side view of the rotor and armatures. The magnet polarities are indicated as red (north) blue (south), the green lines are flux direction indicators.
What is not transparent is the fact that little is gained from this setup from a magnetic perspective, there are forces acting against the rotor you just don't see them unless you build it. The gain comes from the fact that the armature can act like a "pure inductor" and not like a conventional rotor would where the flux must flow through it----- think residual magnetism and magnetic drag or the lack of it. Is it OU, I will let you decide when you build it.

Don't feel too bad that I beat you to this hans, I was beaten as well---- I built all the motors posted and was very excited ---- then I learned all of this has been patented in the 1940's LOL . I was beaten to it by over 60 years, such is life.
Maybe with help we could improve this to new heights!!! --- brushless maybe?

[nightlife]

 You all maybe should being looking at utilizing this next invention's concept by using voice coils instead of wind. It would be much more simple to design and build and yet would create 100% true free energy from thin air if a cystal radio concept was utilized in the design.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMojRXK14jU

[gyulasun]

--- then I learned all of this has been patented in the 1940's LOL . I was beaten to it by over 60 years, such is life.
Maybe with help we could improve this to new heights!!! --- brushless maybe?

@allcanadian,  could you recall the patent number, please?

Thanks,  Gyula

[allcanadian]

If Im correct I found it at the Rexresearch site or panacea , it was a motor like hans and another that used an insane amount of PM armatures like the ones I posted with the same armatures crossways on the rotor. In any case I was looking at patented devices, it broke my freaking heart is what it did, you think "ya" this is it I got a live one --- my own device, new and unique and then your crushed. Is there anything that has not been patented !! So we just keep plugging away----such is life-again
I have my motors still, I scammed the neos and the bearings but I imagine I could get them running and post a few scopeshots if anyone wants.