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Robert C. Beck Biological Electrification Device

Started by Rosphere, February 27, 2008, 03:45:33 PM

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jacek

Amigo,

I do not have any special instruments to measure conductivity, only a digital multimeter. Prior to applying electricity to the silver wires, I heat up the glass jar that contains distilled water (steam distilled water, to be exact - I buy it at Jewel foodstore) inside a steel pot on a gas stove. Once the tap water in the pot reaches boiling point, I set the gas knob to 'low' setting, apply 35 V DC to the wires. The amount of electric current at the very begining of the brewing process usually reads about 400 uA (that's micro-Amperes), so the related conductivity reading is 11.4e-6 S or 87.5 kOhms. The process is allowed to run for 1 hour typically at which point the current reads about 1.5 mA (milli-Ampres), voltage across the wires reads approximately 27 V DC (5.55e-5 S or 18 kOhms). Water is still clear with barely visible Tyndall backscatter effect). I do not have any idea what the ppm value is in my brew, but from what I read, ppm value is of secondary importance relative to the size of silver particles which should be as small as possible). In my understanding low current pretty much translates to small particle size.

Keep in mind that I am very much a newbie at making CIS and that everything I write here should be taken with a grain of salt.

Regards,
Jacek

edit: Forgot to mention that my cardboard pyramid is oriented to true N-S as close as possible with the aid of my very cheap compass. The top of the water level reaches some 3/4 of the height of the pyramid, I guess it means that King's Chamber is below that top level, I am not 100% sure.




amigo

Hmm, I agree that particle size should be in the 0.001-0.01 microns range but that's impossible to measure without an electron microscope, but I also feel that concentration of particles should have an effect, the more particles in the solution less CS you need to take to saturate the body.

I have also used a Bedini Solid-State oscillator as a source (Dr. Peter Lindemann suggested it to me from his own past experience) and that would usually produce 3.5 - 5ppm (though I do not recall anymore what kind of Tyndall it had, I did not make notes at the time but will run more tests again).

Also, I believe you are mistaken about your pyramid orientation because True North is a geographical North towards the Northern Star (Polaris) not the compass derived magnetic North...

Thanks.

Quote from: jacek on March 02, 2008, 11:14:41 PM
Amigo,

I do not have any special instruments to measure conductivity, only a digital multimeter. Prior to applying electricity to the silver wires, I heat up the glass jar that contains distilled water (steam distilled water, to be exact - I buy it at Jewel foodstore) inside a steel pot on a gas stove. Once the tap water in the pot reaches boiling point, I set the gas knob to 'low' setting, apply 35 V DC to the wires. The amount of electric current at the very begining of the brewing process usually reads about 400 uA (that's micro-Amperes), so the related conductivity reading is 11.4e-6 S or 87.5 kOhms. The process is allowed to run for 1 hour typically at which point the current reads about 1.5 mA (milli-Ampres), voltage across the wires reads approximately 27 V DC (5.55e-5 S or 18 kOhms). Water is still clear with barely visible Tyndall backscatter effect). I do not have any idea what the ppm value is in my brew, but from what I read, ppm value is of secondary importance relative to the size of silver particles which should be as small as possible). In my understanding low current pretty much translates to small particle size.

Regards,
Jacek

edit: Forgot to mention that my cardboard pyramid is oriented to true N-S as close as possible with the aid of my very cheap compass. The top of the water level reaches some 3/4 of the height of the pyramid, I guess it means that King's Chamber is below that top level, I am not 100% sure.


jacek

Amigo,

With the primitive equipment at hand, I am quite lucky to be able to make any CS, lol.
Seriously though, since my CS generator isn't capable of current limitting, I elected the low current (=small particle size?) vs higher ppm.
I should've made this clear in the previous post.
I may modify the generator to be able to limit the current.

As to the N-S orientation, this is best I can do at the moment (eyeballing with an aid of simple compass), however I am aware of magnetic deviation from geographic N-S line, currently -3 degrees for where I live. Additionally, the pyramid I use is a cardboard one, definately not the most accurate replica of the Grand One in Giza :).

J.





amigo

Hehe sorry, I didn't mean to be a pain in the a$$, I'm just a stickler for details and when it comes to things like this precise details might be important to ensure that identical results repeat each time. :D

You could use LM334 for current limiting, a very simple circuit which also has two resistors and a diode...I guess you did not use any kind of voltage or current limiting but applied 30V straight and just count the time in your brew.

I was going to actually build a Microchip PIC driven system with data logging and sample measurements so that the process is stopped at the right moment. A really good page for an in-depth analysis is Mike Monett's "SilverSol" at http://members.spsdialup.com/mts@spsdialup.com/index.htm if you aren't aware of it already. :)

jacek

Amigo,

I modified the CS generator by adding current limiters to each electrode path (using Beck-based blood purifier device for this job). Current is set to a maximum of 1 mA. Distilled water gets heated up before applying the current then process is allowed to run overnight for approximately 10 hours. The finished solution is clear with no visible goldish tint to it, hardly any solids (silver salts or oxide?) on the bottom of the jar and STRONG Tyndall, silver wire pretty much clear of gunk. I keep ingesting this colloid, feel fine.
The link below suggests that my ppm could be pretty high (1 liter, 1 mA, 10 hours):
http://www.silvermedicine.org/Silver%20v01%5B1%5D.09.06.xls

In another experiment I pured some milk into two small cups, ran 75 mA / 35 V DC current thru silver wires in one of them for a couple of minutes. Then covered the cups with small saucers and left them sitting on a kitchen table since Friday night. This morning the 'silver' milk still smelled fresh with no symptoms of solidyfying. The milk in 'control' cup turned smelly and semi-solid.

So in conclusion, it appears that silver particles have slowed down the process of the milk going spoiled. Will keep an eye on the 'silver' milk until it starts smelling or getting 'kefired'.

Thanks for the LM334 current limiter suggestion, did not have any on hand so I used an MPS651 NPN transistor plus 2 resistors and two diodes to do the job.

Best,

j.

edit: used a wrong name in the first line.