Robert C. Beck Biological Electrification Device

[amigo]

Hi jacek,

I do not believe you need to have current limiter on both paths, just on the positive electrode path. You could also try to switch electrodes every 15-30 minutes to prevent Silver Hydroxide from forming.

Depending how long your electrodes are, 1mA might be too much current. Usually the electrode wet surface is calculated and the current applied computed based on that surface.

With regards to the colour, there's an old book about colloids called Practical Colloid Chemistry, section on Colours of Colloidal Metals that talks in detail about various colours. Peter Lindemann in this article refers to it http://www.elixa.com/silver/lindmn.htm

Also, you might want to read this one about Lunar influences on electrochemical production of colloidal silver: http://www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/lunar.htm

[jacek]

I do not believe you need to have current limiter on both paths, just on the positive electrode path. You could also try to switch electrodes every 15-30 minutes to prevent Silver Hydroxide from forming.

Depending how long your electrodes are, 1mA might be too much current. Usually the electrode wet surface is calculated and the current applied computed based on that surface.

Amigo,

Thanks for sharing the links.

The reason I put current limiters on both paths is because my CS gen swaps the electrodes polarity every 20 minutes or so.

I use the 14 AWG wire with about 4" of each wire wetted. IIRC, someone on the Web (sorry, I don't have a link handy right now) suggested 1 mA current for my arrangement, however I am open for suggestions if you don't mind sharing.

Funny, I had a strange feeling that Moon had something to do with CS, lol. It makes it even more interesting.

Take care,

Jacek

[amigo]

Hi jacek,

14AWG seems to me pretty thin, but in general you need to compute the wet surface of each electrode and add them together then I believe it's 1mA for each square inch, though I think that ratio is someone else's not mine.

My electrodes are 12AWG, and I actually have 10AWG as well, with the dipped part of about 6" each (both are curved in a nice U shape to increase the surface). I drive them with 400-600uA constant current at 30V DC no switching for several hours, or using a Bedini solid state oscillator up to an hour.

Depending which method I use the Tyndall effect is different suggesting different particle size. With Bedini oscillator there are no large specks and Tyndall is more transparent (eyeing it out) while the constant current one is less transparent with occasional scintillations suggesting larger particles.

In general they say to get the smallest possible particle size you can, regardless of the concentration in ppm. The smaller particles penetrate cells better and are most commonly used internally (ingested, sub-lingual, inhaled) while larger particles are better for oral applications (eyes, skin, nose, etc).

[bolt]

Interesting....i make my CS to straw yellow. Takes just a couple of hours to make couple of litres. Current limit is 7 ma voltage 25.  Taking the brew to 10 ppm is ideal for several reasons.

1) it gives reference point to when the CS is ready because when it optimum it will turn very pale yellow. This can ONLY happen when enough silver has gone into the solution to refract the light and happens around 10 ppm.

2) 10 ppm is know scientifically to be the optimum level for fastest eradication of pathogens.

If you ever see any other colors or contaminates throw it away! Any hint of grey the brew is contaminated. Orange over brewed.

Light straw yellow with no crap seen on the bottom ......perfect.

When you drink it it should have a slight metallic taste but its not unpleasant. Kinda of antiseptic properties to it. Swish around your mouth is good for hogs breath:)

Clean the silver wire regularly during the brew. Keep OUT of sunlight. Once you made it put in a dark cupboard. If you leave CS in the sun light for a few hours you kill it.

Dont use metal pans for heating the water. CS should only ever be made in pyrex glass ware. Not even stirred with metal spoon. ANY contamination is bad. Everything must be washed sterile in distilled water and rinsed perfectly. Heating on coffee plate or microwave oven.

Tons of stuff on google about this but this is my guide. When you are sick you can drink half a pint! yes HALF PINT a day of 10 ppm silver for around 30 days without ever reaching unsafe limits. If you are making a clear water batch at room temps you may never even get to as high as 5-7 ppm even after 10 hours.   Once you are well again the back ground support dose is 2 table spoons a day. Or even non at all.  I don't take CS all the time i take it IF i need it. I know many many people that drink as much as a pint of CS a day for years and never turn blue in fact it almost impossible if you use pure water and NEVER EVER add salt or anything into the CS. Only then you will make silver nitrates and run the risk of CS blues.  Dont forget folks there are over 10 million CS users in the US now and only about 8 have gone blue and they drunk buckets for decades. If you are sensible you will NEVER go blue but no point taking a sip a day either and expect it to work miracles when you are very sick.

If you get a bad cold coming on you know when you wake up throat dry nose feels stuffy and hot. You must act fast!  Squirt CS up your nose and in your ears. You must do this as the cold virus is now in the inner ear and sinuses.  Drink 1/4 pint of CS in the morning then the next 1/4 at night.  Use a spray bottle and inhale CS 3 sharp breaths and suck it in to get down on your lungs and do ears nose lungs 3 or 4 times per day. Within 30 minutes each time you will notice a huge difference. But you must continue the process. 90% of bad colds and flu can be gone in about 12 to 18 hours. Even the worst flu can be reduced to 2 days instead of the usual 3 or 4 days feeling like crap.

Using becks blood cleaner if you make your own go and buy a kit of spare TENS machine electrodes. You can buy like 10 for a few bucks and the self sticky ones can be used for like 2 weeks before you need to replace them. Cut them into strips if you have to so they fit on the wrist correctly. Much more comfy and they stay in place.

BTW becks stuff absolutely does work given time. Don't be fooled you must start slow. If you go straight in with 2 hours and never used it before you will be sorry!  Its a bit like when you are given 1000 mg of Amoxicillin it makes you feel like shit for a couple of days due to die off effects.  You should always start slow like 15 mins then 30 increase to 2 hours a day for 30 days. etc. Google for the beck protocol.  If you over do it you will feel sick and get a light head and must drink lots of pure fresh water VERY important.

Anway the TPU team on here should be experts at making this stuff especially the beck zapper coil. Otto TPU should be good for banging out 70,000 gauss:)  That should cure any cancer known to man LOL

Remember the beck protocol requires everything to work on sickness.  CS, blood cleaner, magnetic zapper, ozone water (excellent stuff) and your commitment. If you skip any of these it may not work of be short lived recovery.

[Rosphere]

Wow, has it been over two months since I stopped in here, on my own topic?

I suppose I feel that it is a bit off topic of the whole OU thing.  I did not want to keep bumping it to the top.

But, since it has already been bumped, (thank you, bolt,) I just want to report that I have nothing to report.

I have been feeling well and feel no need to use it.

My father, however, just got his four nines in the mail this week.  He is now waiting on his two ppm meters to arrive.
(He got one for me too.  Aww...)  He even purchased buffer solution.

It feels odd to get my father interested in something new.

Thanks for the PPM data.  It sounds within the same order of magnitude that my dad was tossing about recently.