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What happens when you draw a wire through a horseshoe magnet?

Started by sparks, March 01, 2008, 09:12:10 AM

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sparks

      We know passing a bar magnet perpendicular to a conductor creates migration of electrons towards one end of the wire.  Faraday gave us that.  Then somewhere it is written that if we pass the magnet along the wire nothing happens.  I have seen several instances of guys dropping magnets in tubes of copper or aluminum and they seem to defy gravity.  They generate emf in the copper as they pass along the tubes surface.  This current creates a magnetic field which opposes the field of the permanent magnet.  So if we draw a piece of copper through a horseshoe magnet it is producing electricity in the wire just not where we want it out at the end of the wires.  If the tpu collector winding is the equivalent of the copper tube.  And the kick windings are the magnet drop.  What kind of emf is produced in the collector?  If we put a conductor in place of a magnetic armature in a relay coil and pulse the coil what goes on inside the conductor?
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Localjoe

@sparks

Its like erasing a tape cassette. If you had a coil and a microphone and the wire was in the center of this coil and you dragged the coil from one side of the wire all the way to the other while speaking. it would re orient the magnetic domains in the wire and "encode" your voice , you could then replace the mic with a speaker and walk the coil back down the wire to hear what you recorded..  I imagine that a perm horshoe mag would wipe that recording out or reset the domains so to say.
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Also in reality Google has provided this info for some time.. so heres my point.

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nightlife

Localjoe, are you sure about that? Would the coil need to be powered?

If that was true, dont you think the sound would be reversed to where it came out backwords?

And if it is true, that would be saying that the wire stores the vibrations.

Now I find myself being sent on another mission. LOL

nightlife

That would mean that electricity is nothing more then a sound vibration and the wire is a antenna. The same then could be said about a magnet in a way.
The magnetic flux would just be vibrations with one vibration being in the opposite direction of the other. A north seeking vibration and a south seeking vibration. The actual core would act as a antenna to keep the vibrations attached. This would explain how a iron core is attracted to both north and south poles and how magnets are repelled by the same poles when they facing each other.

The calmer the vibration, the less powerful it is and the more vibrant, the more powerful it is. It is said that DC current doesn?t have  a pulse factor and that would be saying it have no vibration factor but I think it does and we just don?t have the equipment necessary to detect it.

The resistance created would determine the strength of the vibration and the flow would determine the current of the vibration.

A good test to check this would be to strike a object in the direction of a coil having the coil attached to a meter to see if any power is created. The negative should be the lead located at the entrance of the vibration and the positive should be the lead located at the exit of the vibration.

Localjoe

@nightlife
yes that would play it back backwards you would have to walk the same path you recorded it. Only works on iron wire, and the vibrations from the coil the mic is attached spatially magnitizes the wire encoding you music or recording it so to say.
GET THIS ONE - Bush wants to stop Iran from enriching uranium .. now as oberman said and others any drunk coke head can find out how to do this not just bush.

Also in reality Google has provided this info for some time.. so heres my point.

It's OK for GOOGLE TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT but not OK FOR FOLKS TO SHARE TORRENTS OF MUSIC THEY POTENTIALLY OWN> AS WELL THEIR GOODS SHOULD BE SEIZED AND CHECKED AT AIRPORTS For copyright infringement.. ?????

This is the world we live in. More concerned if some exec doesn't get his buck than if some terrorist blows us to hell..