Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time

[zon]

Could you ask you friend why is it important to use different diameter wires for the trigger and power coils?

I think the circuit can only prove it is producing OU if you continuosly monitor the voltage level across the battery for a long long period of time.  And long periode should mean even some weeks, not some days. This is one way to make sure you are not tricked by the battery effect Groundloop mentioned earlier http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4223.msg85436.html#msg85436

@Gyulasun
My friend said, different diameter wire it's not important. I use it because already coil.

I said my circuit suspect OU, and now i'm still monitoring.
Battery voltage still on 1.270 Volt , on 24 hours
Start from 12 April 2008, 11 April 2008, 07.00 am GMT+7
Starting climbing to 1.310 Volt, and now steady at 1.270 Volt for last two days.

@groundloop
Please, use battery only for charging type  like NiMH because circuit have self charging for get OU (I hope).

@all
Please replicate , my revision 10 with two LED (forget it, another revision)  because revision 10 (with two led)
I will try with my friend for implementation OU (big hope). 

My friend at my place for 2 months doing  energy project.


zon

[zon]

After, i have a lot of trial/experiment, here is my summary about efficiency.

Type of toroid transformer, from lowest to highest effiency

1. Bifilar same diameter coil
2. Bifilar with different diameter coil (keep the ratio 0.7, trigger coil and power coil ratio)
3. Trifilar  same diameter coil
4. Bifilar same diameter coil + third coil same diameter with power coil
5. Bifilar with different diameter coil + third coil same diameter power coil
6. Bifilar with different diameter coil + third coil same diameter power coil different number of turn (more than number turn of power coil)

Until now.. i can't get the OU


regards

zon

[gyulasun]

After, i have a lot of trial/experiment, here is my summary about efficiency.

Type of toroid transformer, from lowest to highest effiency

1. Bifilar same diameter coil
2. Bifilar with different diameter coil (keep the ratio 0.7, trigger coil and power coil ratio)
3. Trifilar  same diameter coil
4. Bifilar same diameter coil + third coil same diameter with power coil
5. Bifilar with different diameter coil + third coil same diameter power coil
6. Bifilar with different diameter coil + third coil same diameter power coil different number of turn (more than number turn of power coil)

Until now.. i can't get the OU

regards
zon 

Hi Zon,

Your 'ou'  friend

either knows a "secret" and he really achieved extra output power (but he does not want to share you the secret)

or  he does not know the "secret" and he can or cannot reproduce it again

or  he thinks he achieved extra output (and does not know how) by either  misled  by "battery effect" or wrong measurements.

This is what I think.  Sorry for this conclusion.

Keep up good spirit and experimenting!  If you consider some of my earlier advices on the transistor and diode types, you may still increase your present efficiency after your point 6.  Also, if you make your third coil to be resonant with an extra capacitor at the frequency the circuit is running?  just a guess...

rgds,  Gyula

[zon]

@gyula

Thanks for your attention.
My "OU" friends not tell me what i should do or drawing schematic for me, he only give me a clue.
Unfortunantly to realize his clue , i should have osciloscope.

Now , he promise me to build gadget with battery 12 v 3.5 AH, inverter DC-AC 220V, inductor, magnet etc.

He promise this gadget will give the energy around 300 watt continous, without charging battery from electricity anymore.  I promise to take picture that gadget and sharing it,  but maybe for schematic he not allowed it. I still collecting the component that he want it. Maybe next week i will show it.


zon

[blisteringanomaly]

Hi all, i've been playing around with the led circuit and i had a bifilar wound ferrite toroid and a trifilar wound ceramic?(yellow ring) and the voltage in the system goes up. the led's don't light at all but the voltage in the batteries goes up. not sure how to tell wether the battery is playing tricks on me but i had 5 led's hooked up, with 4AA batteries and the circuit would start out and the led's were not lit, came back in 5 min and the LED's were lit up and the battery voltage had went up.

i'll draw up a diagram of my circuit which battery voltage can start at 0.5 and it'll end above 1V, not sure if the batteries are playing tricks on me or the circuit is actually charging the batteries, i'll post the schematic and a picture of the circuit, i think it's all in the coil windings to be honest, bifilar coils to me look like a relay race of the electrons, except for when A passes to B he still has to finish the race, so you start with A and end up with AB.